Is this a scam? YES it is.

Mathieu Ghekiere · May 24th, 2007, 07:28 PM

This is an interesting thread, I didn't have a clue scams could go so far.
I of course know the standard "I'm from Nigeria, can you send me your bank information, blablabla" - scams, or the "Hi, I have a XL1s PAL on sale, can you... blablabla" - scams, but this is the first time I hear of a scam in which they first send (or suppose to) send you money.
Damn, how do they all come up with this stuff, really...

Glenn Davidson · May 24th, 2007, 07:38 PM

"WATSON GORDON" Ha!

If someone wants to pay you IN ADVNCE, be afraid. Be very afraid!

James Emory · May 24th, 2007, 11:03 PM

Dateline did an undercover operation on this and showed how trusting some people can be, mostly the elderly. Now, these idiots overseas do it because it's too risky to try it locally and it's hard to catch them thousands of miles away. I think this was a real big problem locally and used to be done face to face at banks and ATMs. A person would approach someone at a bank or ATM and talk about a huge check or whatever they couldn't cash either because they were not a citizen or whatever. Then they would offer a percentage of the check for that person depositing it in their account. Of course the check was no good but the depositor found that out too late after the scammer was long gone with the cash. The other way was to give the person a check for the same reasons above and get the victim to get them cash at the ATM. Then the same thing would happen when the victim deposited the check.

Jason Robinson · May 25th, 2007, 10:23 AM

The real crime in this is that someone is taking advantage of the good will of others.

But as I tried to mention above, but misstyped.... why couldn't a person that wants to be a 419-eater just say "Hang on..... I'll get you a refund once I have the money in my bank account and it is cleared" Then just wait for the entire thing to clear (or not as is likely the case). Isn't that the safe approach (well besides not baiting them in at all)? Or are there ways to cancel payment once everything has cleared on both ends?

jason

Tim Harjo · May 25th, 2007, 07:01 PM

You would think they would be more creative. The scammers seem to always be interested in the transaction far more than than the exchange of services/ product.

How many of your "real" clients talk more about how to pay you rather than disccusing deatils of your product? I have puppies that I occasionally sell and I see these scams A LOT.

Jason Robinson · May 27th, 2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Harjo

You would think they would be more creative. The scammers seem to always be interested in the transaction far more than than the exchange of services/ product.

How many of your "real" clients talk more about how to pay you rather than disccusing deatils of your product? I have puppies that I occasionally sell and I see these scams A LOT.

That seems to be any easy top off right there. :-) Hopefully word is getting out to venders and the public at large not to trust people using those methods.

jason

Pete Bauer · May 28th, 2007, 07:19 PM

Ok, enough of the holier than thou stereotypical people-bashing, which has been removed. It has no place on DVinfo. Apologies to a couple of others whose posts responded with a more kind mindset and got removed en bloc with the rude ones.

May 24th, 2007, 07:28 PM	#16
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	This is an interesting thread, I didn't have a clue scams could go so far. I of course know the standard "I'm from Nigeria, can you send me your bank information, blablabla" - scams, or the "Hi, I have a XL1s PAL on sale, can you... blablabla" - scams, but this is the first time I hear of a scam in which they first send (or suppose to) send you money. Damn, how do they all come up with this stuff, really... __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

May 25th, 2007, 10:23 AM	#19
Jason Robinson Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,997	Too Trusting The real crime in this is that someone is taking advantage of the good will of others. But as I tried to mention above, but misstyped.... why couldn't a person that wants to be a 419-eater just say "Hang on..... I'll get you a refund once I have the money in my bank account and it is cleared" Then just wait for the entire thing to clear (or not as is likely the case). Isn't that the safe approach (well besides not baiting them in at all)? Or are there ways to cancel payment once everything has cleared on both ends? jason

May 28th, 2007, 07:19 PM	#22
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Ok, enough of the holier than thou stereotypical people-bashing, which has been removed. It has no place on DVinfo. Apologies to a couple of others whose posts responded with a more kind mindset and got removed en bloc with the rude ones. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

May 24th, 2007, 07:38 PM	#17
Glenn Davidson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nevada City, California Posts: 499	"WATSON GORDON" Ha! If someone wants to pay you IN ADVNCE, be afraid. Be very afraid!

May 24th, 2007, 11:03 PM	#18
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Dateline did an undercover operation on this and showed how trusting some people can be, mostly the elderly. Now, these idiots overseas do it because it's too risky to try it locally and it's hard to catch them thousands of miles away. I think this was a real big problem locally and used to be done face to face at banks and ATMs. A person would approach someone at a bank or ATM and talk about a huge check or whatever they couldn't cash either because they were not a citizen or whatever. Then they would offer a percentage of the check for that person depositing it in their account. Of course the check was no good but the depositor found that out too late after the scammer was long gone with the cash. The other way was to give the person a check for the same reasons above and get the victim to get them cash at the ATM. Then the same thing would happen when the victim deposited the check.

May 25th, 2007, 07:01 PM	#20
Tim Harjo Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 195	You would think they would be more creative. The scammers seem to always be interested in the transaction far more than than the exchange of services/ product. How many of your "real" clients talk more about how to pay you rather than disccusing deatils of your product? I have puppies that I occasionally sell and I see these scams A LOT.