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September 6th, 2005, 12:49 PM | #16 | |
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Trademark infringement is determined by an evaluation of 8 factors (called the "Polaroid Factors" after a case by the same name). These are the relevant factors: 1. Similarity of the marks 2. Proximity of the goods or services 3. Strength of the mark 4. Similarity of marketing channels 5. Degree of care and sophistication of purchasers 6. Defendant's intent in adopting the mark 7. Evidence of actual confusion 8. Likelihood of expansion of product lines Without knowing the answers to all of these with respect to your film, I couldn't predict whether a specific use would infringe or not. |
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September 6th, 2005, 01:26 PM | #17 | |
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Scott, just get on the phone and ask the respective organizations. They'll answer your question. Jay |
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September 6th, 2005, 05:53 PM | #18 | |
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I can use anyone's trademark, including their logo, without their permission, as long as I don't dilute it or infringe it by causing a likelihood of consumer confusion as to source, sponsorship or affiliation. I could use someone's copyright-protected expression without permission as long my use comes within fair use doctrine, or is otherwise authorized by statute (or doesn't infringe one of the protected rights). Interestingly enough, merely possessing an unauthorized copy of protected expression, i.e. an infringing copy, is not illegal. I own unauthorized copies of protected expression, and there's nothing anyone can do about it, as long as I don't use them in such a way as to violate a protected right. The point is, just because there's an onerous reservation of rights statement doesn't mean that it's a correct statement of law or enforceable in any way. |
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September 6th, 2005, 07:48 PM | #19 |
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Paul - you're killing me, man...I keep teetering both ways: 'we're in violation...
no wait, maybe we're not in violation...' And I had a rough time today, trying to locate either an IP or an entertainment attorney anywhere near here (I live in Kentucky)....so this evening I'm a little perplexed as to which way to pursue this.....but somehow I've got to get it settled - |
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September 7th, 2005, 06:46 AM | #21 | |
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The truth is, when (if) it he enters the film into festivals or distribution, he will be required to provide proof that he has clearance/licenses for any and all items that might even come close to copyright/trademark infringement. Without such proof of clearance/licenses, the project dies on the vine. Here's an interesting link regarding clearance rights issues and how they affect filmmakers: http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/rock/index.htm. Jay |
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September 7th, 2005, 09:01 AM | #23 | |
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As I've said a number of times, trademarks can be used in films as long as they don't result in a likelihood of consumer confusion as to source, sponsorship or affiliation, or cause dilution or tarnishment. Without actually seeing the film in question, knowing how it's going to be exhibited, and knowing the trademarks, I can't say whether a specific use will result in either copyright or trademark infringement, or not. |
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September 7th, 2005, 01:39 PM | #24 |
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"Heh surely they can want all they "want", there's absolutely nothing they can do legally to demand this from you.. "
I told them to buy the DVD when it came out. It hasn't happened yet, due to numerous issues, but some day...
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September 7th, 2005, 02:11 PM | #25 |
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[QUOTE=Paul Tauger] Remember one thing, though: you won't get sued for infringement if you don't use the trademarks.
Good point, Counselor. |
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Considering my 22 years in the business, I THOUGHT I was right... But you qualified my opinion with real law. Thank you for your post. Sincerely, Stephanie |
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