Does light hire include the cost of bulb replacement? at DVinfo.net

Kris Koster · November 10th, 2011, 11:14 AM

Hey there,

I've always had my own kit, so never had to hire. But I am being asked to hire out my kit.

If I set a realistic price for the hire of the lights, does it include the cost of spare bulbs if they require changing during their shoot? I don't know what the hire shops do.

The reason I ask is that some of the bulbs cost almost as much as the hire of the kit per day. For example, Lowel Rifa 55 replacement 500w bulb is nearly £30. They normally last for ages, but only if looked after. If the crew dismantle them before they have chance to cool down, for example, they do burn out.

Anyone else here have experience of hiring lighting gear?

Garrett Low · November 10th, 2011, 12:34 PM

Generally out here when you rent lights it does. At least I've always been given one extra whenever I've rented lights before. It would be best to confirm it and discuss it with the rental house.

BTW - I'm assuming your definition of "hire" is equivalent to renting for me.

-Garrett

R Geoff Baker · November 10th, 2011, 06:30 PM

When I hire gear, I expect it to be ready to use, with spares and such on hand & included in the price. Mics with batteries, lights with bulbs, cameras with heads cleaned, et cetera. Your gear goes out the door, you are taking a risk. Wear and tear is part of the package -- but it is your part, as owner, to absorb.

If you feel your gear isn't being treated right, don't rent it ... Some of the shops I've hired from 'offered' a very low cost grip as part of the package -- so cheap, I'd be crazy not to add them on. I assume the shop is subsidizing the day rate for the grip out of the gear price ... but that way they know who & how the gear is being handled.

Cheers,
GB

Kris Koster · November 12th, 2011, 08:44 AM

Well, I had a look at hire shop prices for renting out lighting kit. So I stayed on the same scale/rates.

The trouble is, say they man-handle the kit and a bulb blows - That's the cost of one-day's hire of the entire kit. How on earth could hire shops make any money off that? In fact I could end up *down* on hiring out the gear. If they were to use up three or four bulbs over a three day hire, that costs more than the entire hire.

Seems silly to me, that a high-cost bulb could be included in the package of a lo-cost hire.

R Geoff Baker · November 12th, 2011, 09:38 AM

Well, here's another 'silly' --

I rent your kit, and I'm gentle and meticulous -- you couldn't ask for a better client. And ten minutes into it, the bulb blows because it already has its 150 hours on it. Not from me, I've used it ten minutes ...

And you expect me to buy a new bulb so I can continue to use the kit I rented.

Cheers,
GB

November 10th, 2011, 11:14 AM	#1
Kris Koster Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gatwick, UK Posts: 185	Does light hire include the cost of bulb replacement? Hey there, I've always had my own kit, so never had to hire. But I am being asked to hire out my kit. If I set a realistic price for the hire of the lights, does it include the cost of spare bulbs if they require changing during their shoot? I don't know what the hire shops do. The reason I ask is that some of the bulbs cost almost as much as the hire of the kit per day. For example, Lowel Rifa 55 replacement 500w bulb is nearly £30. They normally last for ages, but only if looked after. If the crew dismantle them before they have chance to cool down, for example, they do burn out. Anyone else here have experience of hiring lighting gear? __________________ http://kriskoster.com

November 10th, 2011, 12:34 PM	#2
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Re: Does light hire include the cost of bulb replacement? Generally out here when you rent lights it does. At least I've always been given one extra whenever I've rented lights before. It would be best to confirm it and discuss it with the rental house. BTW - I'm assuming your definition of "hire" is equivalent to renting for me. -Garrett __________________ Garrett Low www.GLowMediaProductions.com

November 10th, 2011, 06:30 PM	#3
R Geoff Baker Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 471	Re: Does light hire include the cost of bulb replacement? When I hire gear, I expect it to be ready to use, with spares and such on hand & included in the price. Mics with batteries, lights with bulbs, cameras with heads cleaned, et cetera. Your gear goes out the door, you are taking a risk. Wear and tear is part of the package -- but it is your part, as owner, to absorb. If you feel your gear isn't being treated right, don't rent it ... Some of the shops I've hired from 'offered' a very low cost grip as part of the package -- so cheap, I'd be crazy not to add them on. I assume the shop is subsidizing the day rate for the grip out of the gear price ... but that way they know who & how the gear is being handled. Cheers, GB

November 12th, 2011, 08:44 AM	#4
Kris Koster Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gatwick, UK Posts: 185	Re: Does light hire include the cost of bulb replacement? Well, I had a look at hire shop prices for renting out lighting kit. So I stayed on the same scale/rates. The trouble is, say they man-handle the kit and a bulb blows - That's the cost of one-day's hire of the entire kit. How on earth could hire shops make any money off that? In fact I could end up down on hiring out the gear. If they were to use up three or four bulbs over a three day hire, that costs more than the entire hire. Seems silly to me, that a high-cost bulb could be included in the package of a lo-cost hire. __________________ http://kriskoster.com

November 12th, 2011, 09:38 AM	#5
R Geoff Baker Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 471	Re: Does light hire include the cost of bulb replacement? Well, here's another 'silly' -- I rent your kit, and I'm gentle and meticulous -- you couldn't ask for a better client. And ten minutes into it, the bulb blows because it already has its 150 hours on it. Not from me, I've used it ten minutes ... And you expect me to buy a new bulb so I can continue to use the kit I rented. Cheers, GB