Getting a sync lisence from big studios (Sony, etc) at DVinfo.net

Andrew Petrie · December 15th, 2004, 09:40 PM

There's a song by a big band I want as background music for a video of mine - nt for profit, just something i put together. But I also want to share it with people who were involved in the event/shoot

The lisence I'd probably be seeking is a sync lisence, but I can't find any information on how to obtain such a lisence from Sony. I suppose it's something I'd have to call Sony about, run through 50 people until I find out what I need to know...

But there are so many knowledgeable folk here :)

Has anyone dealt with Sony/big labels before? And how much (ballpark) does a track from a big name band usually run to keep things legal?

Band in question is Audioslave. I gave full credit to the band of course, runs at half CD quality, and even encouraged folk to buy the CD. But I realize this is not good enough.

Iain MacDonald · December 16th, 2004, 02:15 AM

Hi Andrew -

I've been looking into copyright issues as well, which has led me to this site. I'm far from being an expert, but what I've been able to ascertain is that - certainly if its not for commercial use - you hopefully won't need to go direct to Sony.

Here in the UK, you can get a Private Function Video Licence from here. They basically represent something like 98% (ie to all intent and purpose "all") of recorded music.

The cost is £40.95 for up to 5 copies.

You also need a mechanical licence, ie the right to physically copy the song from here. The cost is £17.63 for up to 100 copies, and up to 30 mins of music.

I'd hope that there was something similar in Canada - hopefully someone else will know for sure?

Hope this helps.

Iain

Andrew Petrie · December 16th, 2004, 09:37 AM

I sent an email out to BMI, which seems to offer the same sort of service in North America. They have hundreds of artists on there, so hopefully I can get something out of it.

My only issue is if the video somehow gets around the internet beyond my own audience... Does my lisence still cover the one initial recording/rendering of the video, or each individual person that sees it? Or would I be in deep doo-doo?...

Bryan Adamez · December 16th, 2004, 09:43 AM

http://www.sonymusic.com/licensing/contact/

Ran across this just now.

Iain MacDonald · December 16th, 2004, 09:49 AM

Andrew,

As far as I know it doesn't cover the internet, or dvd. But that seems to be because they're being too slow to adapt.

In my case all i want to do is slideshows of still photos with music, but on DVD. I doubt they really go after videographers who don't even get licence, so I figure if i acquire the closest possible licences that are available, i'd have to be pretty damned unlucky for anything to happen. To me, for the sake of the argument, video=video + dvd (even tho in the letter of the law it isn't)

Regarding the internet - not so sure. if its just for you and you're immediate circle of family friends, how likely would it be to get on the net? and even then presumably not in a commercial sense, but maybe someone's personal site?

i'd guess that if you got the licences, and it somehow turned up on the net, in such a low key production, they really should have better things to do than come after you - especially if you've gone to the trouble of getting licence/s that many others perhaps wouldn't even bother getting.

Iain

George Ellis · December 16th, 2004, 02:11 PM

Sync License would be Sony ATV http://www.sonyatv.com/frontdoor/ind...glish/1/0.html. You need this form http://www.sonyatv.com/media/assets/...on_Request.pdf You have to stay on top of it with Sony. I have been working a license and am now working with a 3rd person at S/ATV as mine keeps getting lost (now on month 3).

Is Sony also the publisher of the album? You have to contact the album publisher for the master license.

Fun, huh? Guess why I use Sonic Fire Pro for everything that is not marching band/drum corps performances... :) Acid Loops is the other one along with FreePlayMusic.com in the resource arsenal.

Wish these guys would figure out that if they made it easier (lots), they would get more people doing the right thing.

December 15th, 2004, 09:40 PM	#1
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	Getting a sync lisence from big studios (Sony, etc) There's a song by a big band I want as background music for a video of mine - nt for profit, just something i put together. But I also want to share it with people who were involved in the event/shoot The lisence I'd probably be seeking is a sync lisence, but I can't find any information on how to obtain such a lisence from Sony. I suppose it's something I'd have to call Sony about, run through 50 people until I find out what I need to know... But there are so many knowledgeable folk here :) Has anyone dealt with Sony/big labels before? And how much (ballpark) does a track from a big name band usually run to keep things legal? Band in question is Audioslave. I gave full credit to the band of course, runs at half CD quality, and even encouraged folk to buy the CD. But I realize this is not good enough. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

December 16th, 2004, 09:37 AM	#3
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	I sent an email out to BMI, which seems to offer the same sort of service in North America. They have hundreds of artists on there, so hopefully I can get something out of it. My only issue is if the video somehow gets around the internet beyond my own audience... Does my lisence still cover the one initial recording/rendering of the video, or each individual person that sees it? Or would I be in deep doo-doo?... __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

December 16th, 2004, 09:43 AM	#4
Bryan Adamez New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 19	http://www.sonymusic.com/licensing/contact/ Ran across this just now. __________________ -Bryan

December 16th, 2004, 02:15 AM	#2
Iain MacDonald Tourist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheltenham, UK Posts: 2	Hi Andrew - I've been looking into copyright issues as well, which has led me to this site. I'm far from being an expert, but what I've been able to ascertain is that - certainly if its not for commercial use - you hopefully won't need to go direct to Sony. Here in the UK, you can get a Private Function Video Licence from here. They basically represent something like 98% (ie to all intent and purpose "all") of recorded music. The cost is £40.95 for up to 5 copies. You also need a mechanical licence, ie the right to physically copy the song from here. The cost is £17.63 for up to 100 copies, and up to 30 mins of music. I'd hope that there was something similar in Canada - hopefully someone else will know for sure? Hope this helps. Iain

December 16th, 2004, 09:49 AM	#5
Iain MacDonald Tourist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheltenham, UK Posts: 2	Andrew, As far as I know it doesn't cover the internet, or dvd. But that seems to be because they're being too slow to adapt. In my case all i want to do is slideshows of still photos with music, but on DVD. I doubt they really go after videographers who don't even get licence, so I figure if i acquire the closest possible licences that are available, i'd have to be pretty damned unlucky for anything to happen. To me, for the sake of the argument, video=video + dvd (even tho in the letter of the law it isn't) Regarding the internet - not so sure. if its just for you and you're immediate circle of family friends, how likely would it be to get on the net? and even then presumably not in a commercial sense, but maybe someone's personal site? i'd guess that if you got the licences, and it somehow turned up on the net, in such a low key production, they really should have better things to do than come after you - especially if you've gone to the trouble of getting licence/s that many others perhaps wouldn't even bother getting. Iain

December 16th, 2004, 02:11 PM	#6
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Sync License would be Sony ATV http://www.sonyatv.com/frontdoor/ind...glish/1/0.html. You need this form http://www.sonyatv.com/media/assets/...on_Request.pdf You have to stay on top of it with Sony. I have been working a license and am now working with a 3rd person at S/ATV as mine keeps getting lost (now on month 3). Is Sony also the publisher of the album? You have to contact the album publisher for the master license. Fun, huh? Guess why I use Sonic Fire Pro for everything that is not marching band/drum corps performances... :) Acid Loops is the other one along with FreePlayMusic.com in the resource arsenal. Wish these guys would figure out that if they made it easier (lots), they would get more people doing the right thing.