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Otto Ortiz · August 1st, 2004, 08:50 PM

I bought my XL1s from EBAY and i paid $ 2500.00 US. and I got a few extras to boot. i bought most of my stuff from ebay. beware not to buy from anyone outside of your own country, The FTC and the FBI can not enforce trade laws overseas. I know i got ripped for 3K. By the way, Waco TX has a great store on audio and video equipment, its on the south end of waco. the supply tv stations and other Pros. B+H audio and video in NY City has a great line of equipment also.

Rob Lohman · August 2nd, 2004, 04:51 AM

So are you saying to buy from eBay but that you got ripped off
there for 3K? That sounds like a bit of bad advice. Personally I
would not buy expensive equipment from such a place. Take a
look at our sponsers (like B&H) to support DVInfo.net and know
you are buying from the best in the business.

Peter Moore · August 2nd, 2004, 09:12 AM

I bought a GL2 on ebay but it was from a reputable source - Willoughby in New York. 47th St. Photo, also a reputable source, also sells on ebay occasionally.

But otherwise I wouldn't do it.

Mathieu Ghekiere · August 2nd, 2004, 11:53 AM

What was wrong with the camera?
Or did you didn't receive it?

It's because I too am interested in buying a Canon XL1s, because now (with the XL2) sometimes you can find it very cheap on Ebay.
But I was very suspicious in buying one from Ebay, and now I know why...

Rob Lohman · August 2nd, 2004, 11:59 AM

Also see our how not to get scammed article on the main site.

Dylan Couper · August 2nd, 2004, 05:25 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Moore : I bought a GL2 on ebay but it was from a reputable source - Willoughby in New York. 47th St. Photo, also a reputable source, also sells on ebay occasionally.

But otherwise I wouldn't do it. -->>>

I'd have to disagree about 47th Street Photo. They are one of the worst "garbage packers" on Ebay. They list a camera for sale, including all sorts of adapters and tripods included for an extra price, but they give you the absolute worst quality stuff money can buy, for much more than it's worth. I have to take them off my personal "reputable" list based on that. Occasionaly they aren't bad, but I'd feel much better getting quality components at a fair price. Not to overly plug the forum sponsors, but it's hard to beat them for quality.

Peter Moore · August 4th, 2004, 05:32 AM

Well, I guess you have to just know not to bid too high for those extra gadgets. Willoughby's GL2 accessories were not great either, but I still got a good price on the camera even with all the accessories, and they were good for the beginner I was two years ago.

Granted since then I gave away the crap tripod they included, and had to replace the wide angle adapter because it was vignetting. But like I said, still a good deal on the camera even with all that crap.

Dylan Couper · August 7th, 2004, 02:02 AM

Agreed. However, you and I both know that their 72mm UV filter made in Korea out of plastic is worth about $0.43. Most first time bidders see the same filter and think, "wow, for only $20 more, I can save $80 over buying that overpriced Heliopan one!"
I think their wide angle/telephoto adapters are one of the best example of this. Maybe not a big deal if you are shooting home video.

August 1st, 2004, 08:50 PM	#1
Otto Ortiz Tourist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: carthage, NY Posts: 4	Buy from the country your in ! ! ! I bought my XL1s from EBAY and i paid $ 2500.00 US. and I got a few extras to boot. i bought most of my stuff from ebay. beware not to buy from anyone outside of your own country, The FTC and the FBI can not enforce trade laws overseas. I know i got ripped for 3K. By the way, Waco TX has a great store on audio and video equipment, its on the south end of waco. the supply tv stations and other Pros. B+H audio and video in NY City has a great line of equipment also.

August 2nd, 2004, 04:51 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	So are you saying to buy from eBay but that you got ripped off there for 3K? That sounds like a bit of bad advice. Personally I would not buy expensive equipment from such a place. Take a look at our sponsers (like B&H) to support DVInfo.net and know you are buying from the best in the business. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 2nd, 2004, 11:59 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Also see our how not to get scammed article on the main site. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 2nd, 2004, 05:25 PM	#6
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Moore : I bought a GL2 on ebay but it was from a reputable source - Willoughby in New York. 47th St. Photo, also a reputable source, also sells on ebay occasionally. But otherwise I wouldn't do it. -->>> I'd have to disagree about 47th Street Photo. They are one of the worst "garbage packers" on Ebay. They list a camera for sale, including all sorts of adapters and tripods included for an extra price, but they give you the absolute worst quality stuff money can buy, for much more than it's worth. I have to take them off my personal "reputable" list based on that. Occasionaly they aren't bad, but I'd feel much better getting quality components at a fair price. Not to overly plug the forum sponsors, but it's hard to beat them for quality. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

August 7th, 2004, 02:02 AM	#8
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Agreed. However, you and I both know that their 72mm UV filter made in Korea out of plastic is worth about $0.43. Most first time bidders see the same filter and think, "wow, for only $20 more, I can save $80 over buying that overpriced Heliopan one!" I think their wide angle/telephoto adapters are one of the best example of this. Maybe not a big deal if you are shooting home video. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

August 2nd, 2004, 09:12 AM	#3
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	I bought a GL2 on ebay but it was from a reputable source - Willoughby in New York. 47th St. Photo, also a reputable source, also sells on ebay occasionally. But otherwise I wouldn't do it.

August 2nd, 2004, 11:53 AM	#4
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	What was wrong with the camera? Or did you didn't receive it? It's because I too am interested in buying a Canon XL1s, because now (with the XL2) sometimes you can find it very cheap on Ebay. But I was very suspicious in buying one from Ebay, and now I know why...

August 4th, 2004, 05:32 AM	#7
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Well, I guess you have to just know not to bid too high for those extra gadgets. Willoughby's GL2 accessories were not great either, but I still got a good price on the camera even with all the accessories, and they were good for the beginner I was two years ago. Granted since then I gave away the crap tripod they included, and had to replace the wide angle adapter because it was vignetting. But like I said, still a good deal on the camera even with all that crap.