Warning! ... How I lost my DVX100

Brad Mills · January 23rd, 2005, 10:47 PM

terrible thing that happened to you there man. I hope it works out.

Kell Smith · March 31st, 2005, 03:09 AM

Bill, did you ever find the scumbag who stole your camera?

Pat Sherman · April 8th, 2005, 08:19 AM

If not you could probably write off all the expenses and the cost of the camera as a loss on your taxes.

Dan Euritt · May 16th, 2005, 12:27 PM

just a few days ago i saw news about a rash of phony u.s. postal money orders, so nothing is safe.

how about paypal or similar? there are also online escrow services??

Jesse Parsh · July 31st, 2005, 12:13 PM

This has been going on in the Ebay world for quite a while now, I guess it is spreading to all forums now. Alot of people don't know that the money orders don't even have to be fake for you to beware of it, you can cancel a money order the same as a personal check. I sell alot on Ebay and I would NEVER mail anything out without a check or money order clearing first. GO PAYPAL!!

Adam Bray · August 13th, 2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

PayPal offers some protection but it's not fool-proof. Sorry to hear about this,

Paypal is no better. I got burned selling a $1,300 mobile DVD player via Paypay. Paypal is NOT you friend. You're still at 100% risk. I sold them the DVD player, they called the CC company and disputed charges (claimed the card was stolen or something). Paypal yanked the funds out of my account. Paypals reply was "Sorry, it happens all the time. Nothing we can do".

I will never use Paypal again.

Glenn Chan · August 14th, 2005, 12:04 AM

THere's a site dedicated to Paypal... paypalsucks.com

Dylan Couper · August 14th, 2005, 09:43 AM

Paypal is nearly perfect.... if you are the buyer, and only ever pay by credit card, never ever use your bank account, or money that is IN your paypal account.

If you are a seller, it is safer if you have a seperate bank account for it, and withdraw all the money out of it instantly in case of a chargeback. If I was selling big ticket items to total strangers, no, I would not use Paypal, I would ask for a Western Union money transfer!!! :)

Abdulla Bastaki · November 15th, 2005, 07:34 PM

cash baby cash...

with all these fancy credit cards and cheques u think u're safe, in control.. the best way to do it. i dont trust any peice of paper.

my advice.. forget aaaaaaaall about cash.. cheques and whatever that comes in papers man.

go for pay me quarters. when i get that bag, weigh it, and turns out to be the exact weight and volume in water as is of the legit money of your country's coins weight.. then heat it, slam into the microwave, hit the coins with a tennis racket... until you are satisfied that.. YES this is real money. then.. only then, send over your stuff.

lol.. ONCE, i didnt trust this guy on ebay.. i was like.. u want it so bad darling (dah-ling) pay me in quarters.. and i waited for two weeks.. and he went away, then he sent me an email after a week.. laughing.. darn man ure good how did you know i was "kiddin" all this time. and i was like =S i got out of ebay and never signed in there again.

two months later I see fed ex with a white bag of quarters, there was a note: i respect you dawg!
and thats how i sold my compaq presario 1700 laptop. =D

Chad Davis · January 2nd, 2006, 07:37 AM

Sorry for your loss. I fear that same thing will happen to me. Has anyone tried escrow. From what I've read, it's safe. I've never used it, though.

James Darren · January 2nd, 2006, 08:09 AM

check this link.. someone scammed the scammer!......

http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/

Mark Utley · January 11th, 2006, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Darren

check this link.. someone scammed the scammer!......

http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/

Haha, that's hilarious!

Jay Rodriguez · October 3rd, 2006, 11:37 AM

Wow, this is one of the best things that I've seen yet

Michael Nistler · December 11th, 2006, 05:04 PM

So far, I've been lucky with Internet transactions but I always get to know the seller/buyer before transacting business. Unless the buyer/seller really know one another and have proven their traceable identity, it's too risky for me. Here's a case in point:

Several months ago I was searching Craigslist for a Vinten tripod and found a guy in Las Vegas who had a great deal on the Vinten along with a Canon XL-2, LCD monitor, camera case, and Varizoom. When I politely asked if the party would consider selling the Vinten as a standalone if no one bought the camera, the guy EMAILed me a gruff, terse "no way" response. Fair enough so far...

A week ago I again researched for a Vinten and, low and behold, I again noticed the exact camera, tripod, LCD monitor, Varizoom and case on Craigslist. Suspiciously, this time the package was not only in a different city, but the ad was placed in 3 cities (Miami, Phoenix, and Orange County near LA). See for yourself:

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/240978526.html
http://miami.craigslist.org/ele/230408870.html
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/ele/231343102.html

Notice in the Miami ad, the guy says he needs the money for taxes. Being the suspicious type, I EMAILed him asking specific questions about the camera, configurations and settings only a videographer could answer. The EMAIL response was from a free anonymous EMAIL saying it was actually his brother's camera who needed the money for travel (so much for the tax bill story). Of course, he ignored my request for his home phone telephone number so I could talk with him.

This example has numerous red flags that would prevent me from taking the bait "hook, line and sinker" despite the great price. While the Bible may have said Love Thy Neighbor, it's not a bad idea to add on "to KNOW me (you) is to love me (you)!"

Regards, Michael

August 14th, 2005, 09:43 AM	#38
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Paypal is nearly perfect.... if you are the buyer, and only ever pay by credit card, never ever use your bank account, or money that is IN your paypal account. If you are a seller, it is safer if you have a seperate bank account for it, and withdraw all the money out of it instantly in case of a chargeback. If I was selling big ticket items to total strangers, no, I would not use Paypal, I would ask for a Western Union money transfer!!! :) __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

January 2nd, 2006, 07:37 AM	#40
Chad Davis Tourist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mobile, USA Posts: 3	What about escrow. Sorry for your loss. I fear that same thing will happen to me. Has anyone tried escrow. From what I've read, it's safe. I've never used it, though.

December 11th, 2006, 05:04 PM	#44
Michael Nistler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Petaluma, CA Posts: 456	Fraud via the Net So far, I've been lucky with Internet transactions but I always get to know the seller/buyer before transacting business. Unless the buyer/seller really know one another and have proven their traceable identity, it's too risky for me. Here's a case in point: Several months ago I was searching Craigslist for a Vinten tripod and found a guy in Las Vegas who had a great deal on the Vinten along with a Canon XL-2, LCD monitor, camera case, and Varizoom. When I politely asked if the party would consider selling the Vinten as a standalone if no one bought the camera, the guy EMAILed me a gruff, terse "no way" response. Fair enough so far... A week ago I again researched for a Vinten and, low and behold, I again noticed the exact camera, tripod, LCD monitor, Varizoom and case on Craigslist. Suspiciously, this time the package was not only in a different city, but the ad was placed in 3 cities (Miami, Phoenix, and Orange County near LA). See for yourself: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/240978526.html http://miami.craigslist.org/ele/230408870.html http://phoenix.craigslist.org/ele/231343102.html Notice in the Miami ad, the guy says he needs the money for taxes. Being the suspicious type, I EMAILed him asking specific questions about the camera, configurations and settings only a videographer could answer. The EMAIL response was from a free anonymous EMAIL saying it was actually his brother's camera who needed the money for travel (so much for the tax bill story). Of course, he ignored my request for his home phone telephone number so I could talk with him. This example has numerous red flags that would prevent me from taking the bait "hook, line and sinker" despite the great price. While the Bible may have said Love Thy Neighbor, it's not a bad idea to add on "to KNOW me (you) is to love me (you)!" Regards, Michael

January 23rd, 2005, 10:47 PM	#31
Brad Mills Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, NS / Toronto, ON Posts: 41	terrible thing that happened to you there man. I hope it works out.

March 31st, 2005, 03:09 AM	#32
Kell Smith Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 436	Bill, did you ever find the scumbag who stole your camera?

April 8th, 2005, 08:19 AM	#33
Pat Sherman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DuPont, Wa Posts: 325	If not you could probably write off all the expenses and the cost of the camera as a loss on your taxes.

May 16th, 2005, 12:27 PM	#34
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	just a few days ago i saw news about a rash of phony u.s. postal money orders, so nothing is safe. how about paypal or similar? there are also online escrow services??

July 31st, 2005, 12:13 PM	#35
Jesse Parsh Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lakewood Ohio Posts: 51	This has been going on in the Ebay world for quite a while now, I guess it is spreading to all forums now. Alot of people don't know that the money orders don't even have to be fake for you to beware of it, you can cancel a money order the same as a personal check. I sell alot on Ebay and I would NEVER mail anything out without a check or money order clearing first. GO PAYPAL!!

August 14th, 2005, 12:04 AM	#37
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	THere's a site dedicated to Paypal... paypalsucks.com

November 15th, 2005, 07:34 PM	#39
Abdulla Bastaki Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UAE Posts: 54	cash baby cash... with all these fancy credit cards and cheques u think u're safe, in control.. the best way to do it. i dont trust any peice of paper. my advice.. forget aaaaaaaall about cash.. cheques and whatever that comes in papers man. go for pay me quarters. when i get that bag, weigh it, and turns out to be the exact weight and volume in water as is of the legit money of your country's coins weight.. then heat it, slam into the microwave, hit the coins with a tennis racket... until you are satisfied that.. YES this is real money. then.. only then, send over your stuff. lol.. ONCE, i didnt trust this guy on ebay.. i was like.. u want it so bad darling (dah-ling) pay me in quarters.. and i waited for two weeks.. and he went away, then he sent me an email after a week.. laughing.. darn man ure good how did you know i was "kiddin" all this time. and i was like =S i got out of ebay and never signed in there again. two months later I see fed ex with a white bag of quarters, there was a note: i respect you dawg! and thats how i sold my compaq presario 1700 laptop. =D

January 2nd, 2006, 08:09 AM	#41
James Darren Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 235	check this link.. someone scammed the scammer!...... http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/

October 3rd, 2006, 11:37 AM	#43
Jay Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80	Wow, this is one of the best things that I've seen yet