Documentation of an online theft with multiple victims

Lorinda Norton · November 11th, 2005, 02:43 PM

Not sure about that robot, Alecks, but there are lots of us here who don't take kindly to "evil doers." :)

Besides the five you found listed in Boise there are many more in the other connected towns. Want me to call down the list and ask if he's related before that letter hits 'em? Or would that be tipping him off? Lol! ;)

Alecks Purifoy · November 11th, 2005, 02:50 PM

hahhaha, oh the goon squad how i love you

im letting pay-pal go thru their little process and if i dont get refunded i will switch gears to the legal side

Ryan Reyes · November 11th, 2005, 06:50 PM

Sorry to read about this situation Alecks.

Unfortunately, I don't think paypal will refund you. I was in a similar predicament where I paid via paypal and the seller never sent the item. I went through the entire paypal claims process, and the seller was found at fault. So I was waiting to get a refund, when paypal told me they couldn't refund me because the seller's paypal account was empty. It's obvious he was smart enough to withdraw his funds before the process was over.

Sorry, don't mean to add to this already sad story.

I hope it all works out for you.

Alecks Purifoy · November 11th, 2005, 11:29 PM

Im prepared for the bad news, i didnt buy it on ebay so im not protected by their buyers safety policy or what ever

Steve Olds · November 13th, 2005, 12:53 PM

People get burnt on ebay also. I dought ebay would help if you had been burnt on a scam at ebay. I could be wrong.

Kin Kwan · November 13th, 2005, 10:46 PM

Haha I can't believe this. I actually 'bought' the camcorder from him, too. It's been about 4 weeks and still no cam. I did have luck reaching him and his roommate by phone the day he was supposed to send it out, but of course the line hasn't been working since then.

I knew it was kind of fishy from the beginning, but I was able to talk to him through AIM and on the phone, so I was convinced to lay down the $130. I guess I was spoiled by the fact that I've seen a lot of people buy/sell on this board with no problems (myself included). I also agree that we need some sort of rules regarding the selling of this stuff on the board.

I still kept his emails, phone #, address, and the pictures he sent me of the camcorder. If ya'll need help in getting this guy, let me know on how I can help.

Chris Hurd · November 14th, 2005, 05:59 AM

So now we have a third buyer involved? Did anybody else have contact with the seller? This incident gets nastier by the minute, it seems.

Steve Olds · November 14th, 2005, 01:32 PM

How about his ISP? I was told at one time this could be used to track a person down. Call the computer police.

Alecks Purifoy · November 14th, 2005, 09:00 PM

Thats not a bad idea steve, but i would have to contact his ISP and i have no idea who his ISP is.

Aanarav Sareen · November 14th, 2005, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alecks Purifoy

Thats not a bad idea steve, but i would have to contact his ISP and i have no idea who his ISP is.

Chris should have his IP address and you can track it back from there. If you need any help, please let me know. I have done a lot of this (greedy hackers!)

Chris Hurd · November 15th, 2005, 05:40 AM

I will forward the IP information and anything else on this guy to Alecks... he really needs to be caught. I feel like our reputation is at stake here. In a way I got burned too.

Jon French · November 15th, 2005, 05:59 PM

If you would be nice enough to forward that information to me also I would appreciate it.

Alecks Purifoy · November 15th, 2005, 05:59 PM

As of 5:59 PM Central

he is on-line on aol instant messenger as Gage Luce

Alecks Purifoy · November 15th, 2005, 09:59 PM

I was able to contact him on aol instant messenger today thru a third party and eventually firsthand.

Here is a transcript thru the intermediary

matt: alecks purifoy says "dude i found out ware you live, i contacted your isp. Its possible i can press federal charges. Remember my brother is a lawyer, he has your address too... its not a big deal if you just send my money back ill forget about this whole thing." he wants you to unblock him to sort out your issue.

matt: he says. "150 dollars is more than enough to go to civil court for since im out of state i could drag this farther than i think you understand .... if i dont get my money back soon expect a letter from my laywer, we will be contacting your parents as well"

GageLuce: tell him that i couldnt get his money out of paypal, and his camera is coming he is just gonna have to wait til i get paid on friday tell him im sorry for the inconveinence and that i didnt mean for this to happen i would have shipped it if i got the money out but i never could get it out

GageLuce: oh and not this friday i get paid but the 25th is my first check and ill send it express shipping that day

matt: can you unblock him and contact him via aim. he would like to discuss the issue with you.

He did get ahold of me... here is that transcript..

Connecting to GageLuce…

GageLuce: yo man

Alecks: allright dude

GageLuce: sorry bout all this you camera is on its way

Alecks: their is a level of uncoolness

GageLuce: i just never could get the money out of paypal

GageLuce: yeah i understand

Alecks: and you have surpassed it

GageLuce: i never meant for this to happen dude

Alecks: what about the other people who paied for it

GageLuce: no one else paid for it

GageLuce: they said they wanted it and were gonna send the money and never did i never got any other payments from another soul and i swear to god

GageLuce: bear with me til the 25th and iull ship it out thats the best i can do man

GageLuce: cause i dont get paid til then

Alecks: Kin Kwan

GageLuce: i have no idea who the f*** that is

Alecks: Begin quote from DVinfo"Haha I can't believe this. I actually 'bought' the camcorder from him, too. It's been about 4 weeks and still no cam. I did have luck reaching him and his roommate by phone the day he was supposed to send it out, but of course the line hasn't been working since then.
I knew it was kind of fishy from the beginning, but I was able to talk to him through AIM and on the phone, so I was convinced to lay down the $130. I guess I was spoiled by the fact that I've seen a lot of people buy/sell on this board with no problems (myself included). I also agree that we need some sort of rules regarding the selling of this stuff on the board.
I still kept his emails, phone #, address, and the pictures he sent me of the camcorder. If ya'll need help in getting this guy, let me know on how I can help."
"TRi is my friend who sent him money for this camera two weeks ago. He will be contacting you soon." EndQuote"
(their is a long pause)
6:15 PM

Alecks: dude this could be a big deal for you....

Alecks:like huge.

GageLuce: nah dude he never sent shit i remember that dude and i talked to him about it before you, he said he was going to send it i waited and waited til the last minute and i couldnt wait anymore i needed the money to get home

Alecks: like triple felony

Alecks: i bought another camera allready

GageLuce: aight well i can still send this one to you

Alecks: just transfer the money back to me on pay-pal

GageLuce: your getting the camera ill send it out

Alecks: why did you give me a bunk phone number?

Alecks: i didnt give you a bunk phone number

GageLuce: that was my phone number til it got shut off

Alecks: this is sooooo sketchy

GageLuce: i have been phoneless and computer less for almost a month now

GageLuce: my computer got a virus

GageLuce: i have been using the library computers dude

Alecks: just send my money back

GageLuce: it wont be til i get paid

Alecks: send me the money in paypal you cant get out

GageLuce: dude when you did that shit to my paypal it froze it i cant use it at all

Alecks: do the resoluion thing, its their for a reason,
explane your self and refund me
seriously, its easy

Alecks: you might want to explain your self on DVInfo
6:30 PM

Alecks: well..im expecting 150 to pop up in my pay-pal any min
GageLuce has gone offline.

Well.... still no 150 in my paypal

Kin Kwan · November 15th, 2005, 10:58 PM

"GageLuce: nah dude he never sent shit i remember that dude and i talked to him about it before you, he said he was going to send it i waited and waited til the last minute and i couldnt wait anymore i needed the money to get home"

Hmm....his story would sound believable but he's lying right there. On the day he was supposed to ship the camera off to me, he was supposed to call and tell me the tracking number and I would give him the reference number for the money, but he never called. (This was arranged the night before and I even called him to confirm that I sent the money) I ended up calling him that night and his roommate picked up saying that Gage sent the camera off in the morning. I told his roommate to tell Gage to call me back, which he never did. When I tried calling the next day, the line was already cut off.

November 11th, 2005, 02:43 PM	#31
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Not sure about that robot, Alecks, but there are lots of us here who don't take kindly to "evil doers." :) Besides the five you found listed in Boise there are many more in the other connected towns. Want me to call down the list and ask if he's related before that letter hits 'em? Or would that be tipping him off? Lol! ;) __________________ Lorinda

November 14th, 2005, 05:59 AM	#37
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	So now we have a third buyer involved? Did anybody else have contact with the seller? This incident gets nastier by the minute, it seems. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 15th, 2005, 05:40 AM	#41
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I will forward the IP information and anything else on this guy to Alecks... he really needs to be caught. I feel like our reputation is at stake here. In a way I got burned too. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 11th, 2005, 02:50 PM	#32
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	hahhaha, oh the goon squad how i love you im letting pay-pal go thru their little process and if i dont get refunded i will switch gears to the legal side

November 11th, 2005, 06:50 PM	#33
Ryan Reyes Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 26	Sorry to read about this situation Alecks. Unfortunately, I don't think paypal will refund you. I was in a similar predicament where I paid via paypal and the seller never sent the item. I went through the entire paypal claims process, and the seller was found at fault. So I was waiting to get a refund, when paypal told me they couldn't refund me because the seller's paypal account was empty. It's obvious he was smart enough to withdraw his funds before the process was over. Sorry, don't mean to add to this already sad story. I hope it all works out for you.

November 11th, 2005, 11:29 PM	#34
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	Im prepared for the bad news, i didnt buy it on ebay so im not protected by their buyers safety policy or what ever

November 13th, 2005, 12:53 PM	#35
Steve Olds Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rolla, Mo Posts: 116	People get burnt on ebay also. I dought ebay would help if you had been burnt on a scam at ebay. I could be wrong.

November 13th, 2005, 10:46 PM	#36
Kin Kwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 120	Haha I can't believe this. I actually 'bought' the camcorder from him, too. It's been about 4 weeks and still no cam. I did have luck reaching him and his roommate by phone the day he was supposed to send it out, but of course the line hasn't been working since then. I knew it was kind of fishy from the beginning, but I was able to talk to him through AIM and on the phone, so I was convinced to lay down the $130. I guess I was spoiled by the fact that I've seen a lot of people buy/sell on this board with no problems (myself included). I also agree that we need some sort of rules regarding the selling of this stuff on the board. I still kept his emails, phone #, address, and the pictures he sent me of the camcorder. If ya'll need help in getting this guy, let me know on how I can help.

November 14th, 2005, 01:32 PM	#38
Steve Olds Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rolla, Mo Posts: 116	How about his ISP? I was told at one time this could be used to track a person down. Call the computer police.

November 14th, 2005, 09:00 PM	#39
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	Thats not a bad idea steve, but i would have to contact his ISP and i have no idea who his ISP is.

November 15th, 2005, 05:59 PM	#42
Jon French Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: fairfield, ohio Posts: 63	If you would be nice enough to forward that information to me also I would appreciate it.

November 15th, 2005, 09:59 PM	#44
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	I was able to contact him on aol instant messenger today thru a third party and eventually firsthand. Here is a transcript thru the intermediary matt: alecks purifoy says "dude i found out ware you live, i contacted your isp. Its possible i can press federal charges. Remember my brother is a lawyer, he has your address too... its not a big deal if you just send my money back ill forget about this whole thing." he wants you to unblock him to sort out your issue. matt: he says. "150 dollars is more than enough to go to civil court for since im out of state i could drag this farther than i think you understand .... if i dont get my money back soon expect a letter from my laywer, we will be contacting your parents as well" GageLuce: tell him that i couldnt get his money out of paypal, and his camera is coming he is just gonna have to wait til i get paid on friday tell him im sorry for the inconveinence and that i didnt mean for this to happen i would have shipped it if i got the money out but i never could get it out GageLuce: oh and not this friday i get paid but the 25th is my first check and ill send it express shipping that day matt: can you unblock him and contact him via aim. he would like to discuss the issue with you. He did get ahold of me... here is that transcript.. Connecting to GageLuce… GageLuce: yo man Alecks: allright dude GageLuce: sorry bout all this you camera is on its way Alecks: their is a level of uncoolness GageLuce: i just never could get the money out of paypal GageLuce: yeah i understand Alecks: and you have surpassed it GageLuce: i never meant for this to happen dude Alecks: what about the other people who paied for it GageLuce: no one else paid for it GageLuce: they said they wanted it and were gonna send the money and never did i never got any other payments from another soul and i swear to god GageLuce: bear with me til the 25th and iull ship it out thats the best i can do man GageLuce: cause i dont get paid til then Alecks: Kin Kwan GageLuce: i have no idea who the f*** that is Alecks: Begin quote from DVinfo"Haha I can't believe this. I actually 'bought' the camcorder from him, too. It's been about 4 weeks and still no cam. I did have luck reaching him and his roommate by phone the day he was supposed to send it out, but of course the line hasn't been working since then. I knew it was kind of fishy from the beginning, but I was able to talk to him through AIM and on the phone, so I was convinced to lay down the $130. I guess I was spoiled by the fact that I've seen a lot of people buy/sell on this board with no problems (myself included). I also agree that we need some sort of rules regarding the selling of this stuff on the board. I still kept his emails, phone #, address, and the pictures he sent me of the camcorder. If ya'll need help in getting this guy, let me know on how I can help." "TRi is my friend who sent him money for this camera two weeks ago. He will be contacting you soon." EndQuote" (their is a long pause) 6:15 PM Alecks: dude this could be a big deal for you.... Alecks:like huge. GageLuce: nah dude he never sent shit i remember that dude and i talked to him about it before you, he said he was going to send it i waited and waited til the last minute and i couldnt wait anymore i needed the money to get home Alecks: like triple felony Alecks: i bought another camera allready GageLuce: aight well i can still send this one to you Alecks: just transfer the money back to me on pay-pal GageLuce: your getting the camera ill send it out Alecks: why did you give me a bunk phone number? Alecks: i didnt give you a bunk phone number GageLuce: that was my phone number til it got shut off Alecks: this is sooooo sketchy GageLuce: i have been phoneless and computer less for almost a month now GageLuce: my computer got a virus GageLuce: i have been using the library computers dude Alecks: just send my money back GageLuce: it wont be til i get paid Alecks: send me the money in paypal you cant get out GageLuce: dude when you did that shit to my paypal it froze it i cant use it at all Alecks: do the resoluion thing, its their for a reason, explane your self and refund me seriously, its easy Alecks: you might want to explain your self on DVInfo 6:30 PM Alecks: well..im expecting 150 to pop up in my pay-pal any min GageLuce has gone offline. Well.... still no 150 in my paypal

November 15th, 2005, 10:58 PM	#45
Kin Kwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 120	"GageLuce: nah dude he never sent shit i remember that dude and i talked to him about it before you, he said he was going to send it i waited and waited til the last minute and i couldnt wait anymore i needed the money to get home" Hmm....his story would sound believable but he's lying right there. On the day he was supposed to ship the camera off to me, he was supposed to call and tell me the tracking number and I would give him the reference number for the money, but he never called. (This was arranged the night before and I even called him to confirm that I sent the money) I ended up calling him that night and his roommate picked up saying that Gage sent the camera off in the morning. I told his roommate to tell Gage to call me back, which he never did. When I tried calling the next day, the line was already cut off.