Documentation of an online theft with multiple victims

Jon French · November 6th, 2005, 11:50 PM

TRi is my friend who sent him money for this camera two weeks ago. He will be contacting you soon.

Chris Hurd · November 7th, 2005, 06:45 AM

Thanks Jon, I have heard from him. Looks like there were two victims of this scam. Perhaps we need to send our Goon Squad to pay this guy a visit... and just a reminder to our members, never ever use Western Union to send money. When a seller insists on a wire transfer, that's your first indication that something fishy is going on.

This guy claimed that "he needed the money fast for an airline ticket," well that is his emergency not yours, that is his problem which has no bearing on you. I think we need to revise our policies regarding this forum... thinking about restricting "for sale" items to those members with over 100 or so posts and several months of membership.

Jon French · November 9th, 2005, 08:48 AM

I know on alot of boards you have to have over 50 posts to post in forsale. 100 is pretty high, I'm on the board a fair amount and I have no where near that. I told him it sounded kind of fishy. You wouldnt happen to be able to give us his address would you?

Ryan Baker · November 9th, 2005, 10:11 AM

I can appreciate the effort being made to protect members. But requiring 50 or 100 posts would be limiting to me when I want to sell an item.

I've been a member since March 2004 and read nearly every day. However, I usually only login when I'm going to post a reply. My posts are few, but I try to help when I can and not waste peoples time when I can't.

Some members would get credit for a 'bump' or an 'off topic post' where I just try to keep my mouth shut.

Aren't there other solutions to this problem?

Alecks Purifoy · November 9th, 2005, 10:47 AM

im glad i sent him the money pay-pal....

but now im dealing with their endless red tape

im pretty disappointed now, i was looking forward to that cam...

Alecks Purifoy · November 9th, 2005, 03:07 PM

I don't want what happened to me to happen to other DV info users. But also i don't want any kind of for-sale restrictions either...

Buyers should just use more common sense than i did....

Steve Olds · November 9th, 2005, 06:40 PM

Hey I will be laid off here in Missouri in Dec. Need help on the goon squad? I have a set of wheels if you need a wheel man!!! I hate to see this happen seems you can't trust some people these days.

Alecks Purifoy · November 10th, 2005, 12:00 AM

he gave me a bunk phone number that i just tried calling....

and the address is likely not his.. but their are 5 people with "Luce" with a last name in Bosie who will be receiving a letter from my lawyer... who lucky for me is my brother.

150 dollars doesn't sound like a lot of money, but it is to me... I just got an opportunity to shoot a documentary and wanted to do so with this VX700. I guess thats the reason i jumped on it as quick as i did. This was such a blatant scam... i feel so had.

Any help tracking this punk down would be much appreciated!

And help finding me a solid camera would be nice too!

Thanks for the support every one...

Ill keep the community posted

Jon French · November 10th, 2005, 12:32 PM

If you find out his location and everything let us know so we can get my friends money back also.

Mike Teutsch · November 10th, 2005, 01:02 PM

Alecks,

What happened to you should never happen to anyone, especially here.

What kind of documentary are you ready to film? Maybe I can help,as I have extra cameras. I'll email you. Best of luck in finding this guy and I'm ready to fly there and help you bring this guy to justice.

Mike

Edit: Your email is not available, so email me. Mine is working fine.

Mike

Lorinda Norton · November 10th, 2005, 02:08 PM

Shoot, I live just fifteen miles from Boise. If ya need anything, Alecks, let me know!

As for a "goon squad," I could round up some help in a heartbeat!! ;)

Alecks Purifoy · November 10th, 2005, 02:30 PM

Wow, thanks a lot guys!

Here is an update on the legal side... of course this is if pay-pal doesn't refund me.

It looks like when ever I find him we can take him to small claims court or request restitution via subpoena. But if this address ends up being bunk, and because I live in a different state, I will go ahead and push for federal fraud charges. If he is a minor his parents will have to fill his place for any of these charges, and things will get messy... very messy. If the fraud charges are pressed, we will be able to take this to civil court or make a state claim.
Im very lucky to say my older brother is a lawyer... and hopefully he can help lay the justice upon this douche-bag

Of course this can all be avoided if he just gives me my 150 dollars back. I could relay use it.

Thanks again for the help, and i made my e-mail available for the forum users.

Alecks

Mike Teutsch · November 10th, 2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorinda Norton

Shoot, I live just fifteen miles from Boise. If ya need anything, Alecks, let me know!

As for a "goon squad," I could round up some help in a heartbeat!! ;)

Goon Squad, sounds good to me. I've been called that before, or was that Moron? Oh well, always looking for any excuse to go to Idaho to see my lovely friend Lorinda!

Mike

Alecks Purifoy · November 10th, 2005, 06:41 PM

When i yell "Goon Squad! Assemble!" will all of you guys interconnect to create a gigantic XL1 shaped robot that shall thwart the evil doers of DV INFO?

Alecks Purifoy · November 11th, 2005, 02:17 PM

Maybe you guys can stick him on your buddy list

his aim is GageLuce

he blocked me, of course, but i assume he still signs on occasionally

November 7th, 2005, 06:45 AM	#17
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Thanks Jon, I have heard from him. Looks like there were two victims of this scam. Perhaps we need to send our Goon Squad to pay this guy a visit... and just a reminder to our members, never ever use Western Union to send money. When a seller insists on a wire transfer, that's your first indication that something fishy is going on. This guy claimed that "he needed the money fast for an airline ticket," well that is his emergency not yours, that is his problem which has no bearing on you. I think we need to revise our policies regarding this forum... thinking about restricting "for sale" items to those members with over 100 or so posts and several months of membership. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 10th, 2005, 01:02 PM	#25
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Alecks, What happened to you should never happen to anyone, especially here. What kind of documentary are you ready to film? Maybe I can help,as I have extra cameras. I'll email you. Best of luck in finding this guy and I'm ready to fly there and help you bring this guy to justice. Mike Edit: Your email is not available, so email me. Mine is working fine. Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

November 10th, 2005, 02:08 PM	#26
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Shoot, I live just fifteen miles from Boise. If ya need anything, Alecks, let me know! As for a "goon squad," I could round up some help in a heartbeat!! ;) __________________ Lorinda

November 6th, 2005, 11:50 PM	#16
Jon French Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: fairfield, ohio Posts: 63	TRi is my friend who sent him money for this camera two weeks ago. He will be contacting you soon.

November 9th, 2005, 08:48 AM	#18
Jon French Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: fairfield, ohio Posts: 63	I know on alot of boards you have to have over 50 posts to post in forsale. 100 is pretty high, I'm on the board a fair amount and I have no where near that. I told him it sounded kind of fishy. You wouldnt happen to be able to give us his address would you?

November 9th, 2005, 10:11 AM	#19
Ryan Baker New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Independence, MO Posts: 24	I can appreciate the effort being made to protect members. But requiring 50 or 100 posts would be limiting to me when I want to sell an item. I've been a member since March 2004 and read nearly every day. However, I usually only login when I'm going to post a reply. My posts are few, but I try to help when I can and not waste peoples time when I can't. Some members would get credit for a 'bump' or an 'off topic post' where I just try to keep my mouth shut. Aren't there other solutions to this problem?

November 9th, 2005, 10:47 AM	#20
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	im glad i sent him the money pay-pal.... but now im dealing with their endless red tape im pretty disappointed now, i was looking forward to that cam...

November 9th, 2005, 03:07 PM	#21
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	I don't want what happened to me to happen to other DV info users. But also i don't want any kind of for-sale restrictions either... Buyers should just use more common sense than i did....

November 9th, 2005, 06:40 PM	#22
Steve Olds Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rolla, Mo Posts: 116	Hey I will be laid off here in Missouri in Dec. Need help on the goon squad? I have a set of wheels if you need a wheel man!!! I hate to see this happen seems you can't trust some people these days.

November 10th, 2005, 12:00 AM	#23
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	he gave me a bunk phone number that i just tried calling.... and the address is likely not his.. but their are 5 people with "Luce" with a last name in Bosie who will be receiving a letter from my lawyer... who lucky for me is my brother. 150 dollars doesn't sound like a lot of money, but it is to me... I just got an opportunity to shoot a documentary and wanted to do so with this VX700. I guess thats the reason i jumped on it as quick as i did. This was such a blatant scam... i feel so had. Any help tracking this punk down would be much appreciated! And help finding me a solid camera would be nice too! Thanks for the support every one... Ill keep the community posted

November 10th, 2005, 12:32 PM	#24
Jon French Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: fairfield, ohio Posts: 63	If you find out his location and everything let us know so we can get my friends money back also.

November 10th, 2005, 02:30 PM	#27
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	Wow, thanks a lot guys! Here is an update on the legal side... of course this is if pay-pal doesn't refund me. It looks like when ever I find him we can take him to small claims court or request restitution via subpoena. But if this address ends up being bunk, and because I live in a different state, I will go ahead and push for federal fraud charges. If he is a minor his parents will have to fill his place for any of these charges, and things will get messy... very messy. If the fraud charges are pressed, we will be able to take this to civil court or make a state claim. Im very lucky to say my older brother is a lawyer... and hopefully he can help lay the justice upon this douche-bag Of course this can all be avoided if he just gives me my 150 dollars back. I could relay use it. Thanks again for the help, and i made my e-mail available for the forum users. Alecks

November 10th, 2005, 06:41 PM	#29
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	When i yell "Goon Squad! Assemble!" will all of you guys interconnect to create a gigantic XL1 shaped robot that shall thwart the evil doers of DV INFO?

November 11th, 2005, 02:17 PM	#30
Alecks Purifoy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 85	Maybe you guys can stick him on your buddy list his aim is GageLuce he blocked me, of course, but i assume he still signs on occasionally