A more than likely stupid copyright question at DVinfo.net

Josh Bass · July 21st, 2003, 06:27 PM

Okay, I keep hearing that if I take 3 seconds or less of copyrighted music, and use it in a project (we'll assume for argument's sake it's for commercial purposes), that this is okay. Furthermore, looping this 3 second clip of music for however long you want is also allegedly okay. Now, being that I've heard this from no one I would consider infallible, I want to if it's true.

Robert Poulton · July 21st, 2003, 06:54 PM

well for most art I know if you change it upto 30% of the original then it is yours. So that means you need to change the orginal not just cut out a piece of a copy. I know lots of people that do use bits and pieces of songs but without changing it some how I still think they own the copyright.

I hope you find the answers. because I would like to know as well.

Rob:D

Paul Tauger · July 21st, 2003, 09:11 PM

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Okay, I keep hearing that if I take 3 seconds or less of copyrighted music, and use it in a project (we'll assume for argument's sake it's for commercial purposes), that this is okay.

Nope. There's no magic amount of copying that's permitted.

Josh Bass · July 21st, 2003, 11:13 PM

These people must find the worst lawyers in the world to talk to, 'cause everything I hear from them seems to be wrong. Thanks Paul.

Dylan Couper · July 22nd, 2003, 01:19 AM

People listen to what they want to beleive and tend to tune out what they don't.

John Heskett · July 22nd, 2003, 08:03 AM

True or False, the three second rule is wide spread. I heard it on an TV interview. I can not remember what show, but it had to be either CNN, TechTV, or the MTV/VH1 channels. Those are most of what I watch. Most likely TechTV.

Keith Loh · July 22nd, 2003, 10:49 AM

What I heard about the three second 'rule' was applied to radio stations who wanted to use a portion of a song for a sting or promo sound bite.

Paul Tauger · July 22nd, 2003, 11:17 AM

There is no "three second rule" in copyright law. It is possible that BMI/ASCAP (which controls public performance) may have such a policy -- I don't know.

Josh Bass · July 22nd, 2003, 12:08 PM

Food for thought. I welcome more comments.

July 21st, 2003, 06:27 PM	#1
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July 21st, 2003, 11:13 PM	#4
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July 22nd, 2003, 01:19 AM	#5
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July 22nd, 2003, 08:03 AM	#6
John Heskett Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Terre Haute Indiana Posts: 181	True or False, the three second rule is wide spread. I heard it on an TV interview. I can not remember what show, but it had to be either CNN, TechTV, or the MTV/VH1 channels. Those are most of what I watch. Most likely TechTV. __________________ Illuminate the Vision

July 22nd, 2003, 10:49 AM	#7
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	What I heard about the three second 'rule' was applied to radio stations who wanted to use a portion of a song for a sting or promo sound bite. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 21st, 2003, 06:54 PM	#2
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	well for most art I know if you change it upto 30% of the original then it is yours. So that means you need to change the orginal not just cut out a piece of a copy. I know lots of people that do use bits and pieces of songs but without changing it some how I still think they own the copyright. I hope you find the answers. because I would like to know as well. Rob:D

July 22nd, 2003, 11:17 AM	#8
Paul Tauger Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles (recently from San Francisco) Posts: 954	There is no "three second rule" in copyright law. It is possible that BMI/ASCAP (which controls public performance) may have such a policy -- I don't know.

July 22nd, 2003, 12:08 PM	#9
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Food for thought. I welcome more comments. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB