Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations

Paul R Johnson · October 19th, 2017, 07:23 AM

It's much harder to identify orchestral pieces than pop songs in terms of versions of the song. My tribute band had our recording of a popular song identified as the original, which is rather nice in a way because it does say we're close enough to be confused with it, but with orchestral recordings of the same piece the differences are really quite small, as in tempo, dynamics and small stuff - so while they can identify the piece reliably, they have much trouble with the performance.

Chris Harding · October 19th, 2017, 07:37 AM

Good point Paul!

Sadly with weddings the bride picks the song and supplies it on a USB to the wedding celebrant who plays it ...and 9 times out of 10 it's a vocal track and very current too! Very very likely to get picked up by both YT and FB quite easily. The other option of course is to kill the audio as she walks down the aisle (while the track is playing) It is frustrating though that the celebrant can play it but I get nailed if I record it!!

Your comments seem to tie in nicely with previous ones where the stage performance of Tony's wasn't picked up!

Tony McGuire · October 19th, 2017, 02:44 PM

Hi Chris,

I know on facebook you have to up date the stream key on your device with every new stream. I see it only on continus streams that are over 4 hours that get cut.

If you do short streams you will have to creat a new key to start the stream again and it will be a new post as well.

As for audio I do know youtube did stop me from embedding the video in to my site and also there is ads on it now, also can not be played on mobile devices, tablet and some smart tvs. They picked up the music in the intervils and pinged it. Facebook on the other hand did not and the video is still up on facebook.

Tobin Strickland · October 26th, 2017, 12:11 PM

Good to know. I wonder if I can report to them when content is infringing on my media. They must have gotten sued. .....

Chris Harding · October 29th, 2017, 06:40 PM

I have an idea that people playing music (like a DJ at an event) are licensed to play it publically but not record it on video so the moment your mics pick up the music even though you are not broadcasting it ..Facebook will flag you simply because it appears on your video.

Donald McPherson · October 30th, 2017, 03:43 AM

Years ago, I heard that legally if you play a radio and more than x amount of people listen to it you should have a license.

Chris Harding · October 30th, 2017, 06:21 AM

Hi Donald

We have a blanket DVD license you can get here which allows 20 people to watch your wedding privately at a time. If you have 21+ people in your living room it then becomes a public event and you infringe all copyrights

The music world has truly gone mad. I ask you who really is going to queue up to watch a wedding video. most people run away from them!!!

October 19th, 2017, 07:23 AM	#16
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations It's much harder to identify orchestral pieces than pop songs in terms of versions of the song. My tribute band had our recording of a popular song identified as the original, which is rather nice in a way because it does say we're close enough to be confused with it, but with orchestral recordings of the same piece the differences are really quite small, as in tempo, dynamics and small stuff - so while they can identify the piece reliably, they have much trouble with the performance.

October 19th, 2017, 07:37 AM	#17
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations Good point Paul! Sadly with weddings the bride picks the song and supplies it on a USB to the wedding celebrant who plays it ...and 9 times out of 10 it's a vocal track and very current too! Very very likely to get picked up by both YT and FB quite easily. The other option of course is to kill the audio as she walks down the aisle (while the track is playing) It is frustrating though that the celebrant can play it but I get nailed if I record it!! Your comments seem to tie in nicely with previous ones where the stage performance of Tony's wasn't picked up!

October 19th, 2017, 02:44 PM	#18
Tony McGuire Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Donegal Ireland Posts: 119	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations Hi Chris, I know on facebook you have to up date the stream key on your device with every new stream. I see it only on continus streams that are over 4 hours that get cut. If you do short streams you will have to creat a new key to start the stream again and it will be a new post as well. As for audio I do know youtube did stop me from embedding the video in to my site and also there is ads on it now, also can not be played on mobile devices, tablet and some smart tvs. They picked up the music in the intervils and pinged it. Facebook on the other hand did not and the video is still up on facebook.

October 26th, 2017, 12:11 PM	#19
Tobin Strickland Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 86	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations Good to know. I wonder if I can report to them when content is infringing on my media. They must have gotten sued. .....

October 29th, 2017, 06:40 PM	#20
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations I have an idea that people playing music (like a DJ at an event) are licensed to play it publically but not record it on video so the moment your mics pick up the music even though you are not broadcasting it ..Facebook will flag you simply because it appears on your video.

October 30th, 2017, 03:43 AM	#21
Donald McPherson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Aberdeen Scotland Posts: 815	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations Years ago, I heard that legally if you play a radio and more than x amount of people listen to it you should have a license. __________________ A little knowledge goes a long way but not long enough.

October 30th, 2017, 06:21 AM	#22
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Facebook to be checking live streams for copyright violations Hi Donald We have a blanket DVD license you can get here which allows 20 people to watch your wedding privately at a time. If you have 21+ people in your living room it then becomes a public event and you infringe all copyrights The music world has truly gone mad. I ask you who really is going to queue up to watch a wedding video. most people run away from them!!!