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Dan Gunn · December 12th, 2016, 06:38 AM

Is anyone here using vMix?

Josh Chesarek · December 13th, 2016, 03:10 PM

Been playing around with a trial to use their Replay system. Way better than anything else I have found so far that doesn't cost $30K

Craig Seeman · December 13th, 2016, 05:17 PM

Have you looked at Wirecast Replay system?

Josh Chesarek · December 13th, 2016, 05:19 PM

Yes I have used it since it came out but it doesn't have tags, multi camera iso bumpers for transitions etc.

Chris Harding · December 14th, 2016, 04:46 AM

Looks interesting and nicely priced. I'm using Livestream Studio at the moment and love it .. I wonder if this is better? Can I stream to the Livestream CDN with it ?? LSS is a bit of a CPU hog so a normal laptop isn't usable ..you need a minimum i7 quad at 3.4GB at least to use Livestream Studio ..any used vMix on a standard laptop??

Josh Chesarek · December 14th, 2016, 05:00 AM

Check out the Reference Systems | vMix

They list a 4 cam laptop system that I believe others have used successfully. Once I started using multiple cameras I moved to hardware vision mixers like the ATEM and Datavideo HS-1200. I still use Wirecast to display graphics using chroma key on the hdmi out to the mixer

Chris Harding · December 14th, 2016, 07:46 AM

Thanks Josh

Looks pretty simple so I have to get my head around it. I'm used to LSS and all it's features including the ability to pan crop from a static camera and preset 4 different crop positions per camera too ...guess reading the manual would be a good start to see what it can do?

Much Appreciated

Josh Chesarek · December 14th, 2016, 08:39 AM

Yeah. They give you a free 60 day trial so go nuts. I am a heavy wirecast user and I know it has similar features and in that case you could make shots all day long and use the same camera and just change it. So depending on the version and its shot limit if any go nuts.

Craig Seeman · December 14th, 2016, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek

Yes I have used it since it came out but it doesn't have tags, multi camera iso bumpers for transitions etc.

Please do describe "tags" and "multi camera iso bumpers." Perhaps this is something I should look at vMix for if I understood these features.

Josh Chesarek · December 14th, 2016, 02:59 PM

Wirecast reply is a replay of whatever is in the program window or stream. If you have 4 cameras coming into the system during an event you want to reply the replay system will only allow you to replay what you had on program. If camera 2 had a better shot the current replay system will not let you replay the feed that was coming in on camera 2. Proper replay systems will have an iso or isolated recording of 1 or more cameras regardless of what was on program for you to chose from after the fact.

tags are simply a method of applying a tag or word to a reply. In Basketball that might be "3pts" for any recorded 3 point shot or "Dunk" or "official" for offical review requests. That way they are easy to recall and you can build highlight reels really fast by asking for shots that have specific tags or you could just go the whole game giving out the best plays a highlight tag so at the end of the night you can have it play back the highlights.

The bumpers are just videos or graphics you have the system automatically play before the highlight to make transitioning in and out easier.

Chris Harding · December 15th, 2016, 07:13 AM

To be honest I have played with vMix and it seems to work well but it simply doesn't have the innovative features that I am used to on Livestream Studio. I use the 4 take buttons in LSS quite a lot and it's very useful to be able to pre-frame 4 different shots on each camera and be able to switch to them without touching the camera or physically having to go up to it. As an example at a wedding we can pre-program the main cam with a wide shot of the couple and officiant, a closer shot of just the couple exchanging vows, a close up of the ring exchange and then another closeup of the couple having their first kiss and switch between any take instantly (or with a transition) directly from the computer. Also being able to have our main aisle camera wireless is a big advantage using the Livestream Broadcaster Pro unit.

Admittedly shooting stuff like fast moving sports is another scenario completely and probably needs an operator on each cam!! I do the the fact that I can do a 3 camera shoot each with 4 pre-programmed framing (also adjustable in preview or even in live mode all by myself !

Josh Chesarek · December 15th, 2016, 07:25 AM

Do you have a video of the interface showing this in use? It sounds like you have a camera setup with a wide shot and then you have a scene or shot that takes said camera and crops and zooms to a certain point. You then have several more shots with different pan & scans. This sounds like what can be done in vmix and wirecast but wanted to make sure I understood.

Chris Harding · December 15th, 2016, 07:40 AM

Thanks Josh

On the page take a look at virtual camera crop ..they explain it better than I can

https://livestream.com/studio

Josh Chesarek · December 15th, 2016, 07:54 AM

Yeah you can do this in the other software. I think I like the LiveStream control interface better for this type of thing but it appears it is limited to 4 shots where I could keep going with Wirecast and click between the shot layers as needed.

Dan Gunn · December 15th, 2016, 08:40 AM

vMix Basic only cost $65.00. It accepts four inputs with every format. You can use overlays, custom titles, etc.
The damn thing does more than I can list. Lots of tutorials on You Tube and a GREAT forum. I asked who on this forum was using it because I had a problem that was driving me nuts. I posted my problem on the vMix forum and got lots of responses. One of their members suggested that I join him on "Zoom" (cute system and free).
He spent 1 1/2 hours with me solving my problem and teaching me LOTS of vMix capabilities.

Go vMix!

December 12th, 2016, 06:38 AM	#1
Dan Gunn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 272	vMix Is anyone here using vMix?

December 13th, 2016, 03:10 PM	#2
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Been playing around with a trial to use their Replay system. Way better than anything else I have found so far that doesn't cost $30K __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 13th, 2016, 05:17 PM	#3
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Re: vMix Have you looked at Wirecast Replay system?

December 13th, 2016, 05:19 PM	#4
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Yes I have used it since it came out but it doesn't have tags, multi camera iso bumpers for transitions etc. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 14th, 2016, 04:46 AM	#5
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: vMix Looks interesting and nicely priced. I'm using Livestream Studio at the moment and love it .. I wonder if this is better? Can I stream to the Livestream CDN with it ?? LSS is a bit of a CPU hog so a normal laptop isn't usable ..you need a minimum i7 quad at 3.4GB at least to use Livestream Studio ..any used vMix on a standard laptop??

December 14th, 2016, 05:00 AM	#6
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Check out the Reference Systems \| vMix They list a 4 cam laptop system that I believe others have used successfully. Once I started using multiple cameras I moved to hardware vision mixers like the ATEM and Datavideo HS-1200. I still use Wirecast to display graphics using chroma key on the hdmi out to the mixer __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 14th, 2016, 07:46 AM	#7
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: vMix Thanks Josh Looks pretty simple so I have to get my head around it. I'm used to LSS and all it's features including the ability to pan crop from a static camera and preset 4 different crop positions per camera too ...guess reading the manual would be a good start to see what it can do? Much Appreciated

December 14th, 2016, 08:39 AM	#8
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Yeah. They give you a free 60 day trial so go nuts. I am a heavy wirecast user and I know it has similar features and in that case you could make shots all day long and use the same camera and just change it. So depending on the version and its shot limit if any go nuts. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 14th, 2016, 02:59 PM	#10
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Wirecast reply is a replay of whatever is in the program window or stream. If you have 4 cameras coming into the system during an event you want to reply the replay system will only allow you to replay what you had on program. If camera 2 had a better shot the current replay system will not let you replay the feed that was coming in on camera 2. Proper replay systems will have an iso or isolated recording of 1 or more cameras regardless of what was on program for you to chose from after the fact. tags are simply a method of applying a tag or word to a reply. In Basketball that might be "3pts" for any recorded 3 point shot or "Dunk" or "official" for offical review requests. That way they are easy to recall and you can build highlight reels really fast by asking for shots that have specific tags or you could just go the whole game giving out the best plays a highlight tag so at the end of the night you can have it play back the highlights. The bumpers are just videos or graphics you have the system automatically play before the highlight to make transitioning in and out easier. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 15th, 2016, 07:13 AM	#11
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: vMix To be honest I have played with vMix and it seems to work well but it simply doesn't have the innovative features that I am used to on Livestream Studio. I use the 4 take buttons in LSS quite a lot and it's very useful to be able to pre-frame 4 different shots on each camera and be able to switch to them without touching the camera or physically having to go up to it. As an example at a wedding we can pre-program the main cam with a wide shot of the couple and officiant, a closer shot of just the couple exchanging vows, a close up of the ring exchange and then another closeup of the couple having their first kiss and switch between any take instantly (or with a transition) directly from the computer. Also being able to have our main aisle camera wireless is a big advantage using the Livestream Broadcaster Pro unit. Admittedly shooting stuff like fast moving sports is another scenario completely and probably needs an operator on each cam!! I do the the fact that I can do a 3 camera shoot each with 4 pre-programmed framing (also adjustable in preview or even in live mode all by myself !

December 15th, 2016, 07:25 AM	#12
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Do you have a video of the interface showing this in use? It sounds like you have a camera setup with a wide shot and then you have a scene or shot that takes said camera and crops and zooms to a certain point. You then have several more shots with different pan & scans. This sounds like what can be done in vmix and wirecast but wanted to make sure I understood. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 15th, 2016, 07:40 AM	#13
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: vMix Thanks Josh On the page take a look at virtual camera crop ..they explain it better than I can https://livestream.com/studio

December 15th, 2016, 07:54 AM	#14
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Re: vMix Yeah you can do this in the other software. I think I like the LiveStream control interface better for this type of thing but it appears it is limited to 4 shots where I could keep going with Wirecast and click between the shot layers as needed. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

December 15th, 2016, 08:40 AM	#15
Dan Gunn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 272	Re: vMix vMix Basic only cost $65.00. It accepts four inputs with every format. You can use overlays, custom titles, etc. The damn thing does more than I can list. Lots of tutorials on You Tube and a GREAT forum. I asked who on this forum was using it because I had a problem that was driving me nuts. I posted my problem on the vMix forum and got lots of responses. One of their members suggested that I join him on "Zoom" (cute system and free). He spent 1 1/2 hours with me solving my problem and teaching me LOTS of vMix capabilities. Go vMix!