Cross Processing (E6) with Digital at DVinfo.net

Peter Jefferson · August 26th, 2005, 08:47 AM

Okies, ive thrown my hand across afew pics in an attempt to achieve this look on digital. Now with Video, i can easily emulate this with colour curves and the glow filters.. but with stills, im at a loss as to where to begin..

any ideas? Im using Photoshop CS2 and Ulead PhotoImpact 6 (it does almsot everything photoshop does but it was dirt cheap)
I also have AutoFX Mystical Lighting which has helped in many situations

ive tried contrasts etc, but for some reason i jstu cant get it right.. i dont know what it is... but to most it might LOOK ok.. but for me it just doesnt "Feel" right.. hard to explain but for me photography is very powerful and like video, gettin the look i desire is in post is as important as the shot itself. In fac tfor what i do, Post work would probably outweigh the work i do in the actual shoot itself..

in the meantime i wait for the arrival of the 5D... ive decided im going for the full frame baby.. albeit 3 grand more expensive than the 20d, in the longrun though, i wont have to upgrade too soon, and id have a larger canvas to play with too.. so that will also help.. among other benefits of the 5d.. which i wotn go into here.

Emre Safak · August 26th, 2005, 09:44 AM

I do not understand... why not use the same Curves and glow filters in your editing application? I know you can with Photoshop.

Cannon Pearson · August 26th, 2005, 06:43 PM

Try using a Curves adjustment layer in Photoshop, make radical color changes and then experiment with different blend modes such as overlay or color burn.

Ken Tanaka · August 27th, 2005, 01:44 AM

Try Digital Film Tools' 55M Suite. It's an excellent set of plug-ins for such effects.

Peter Jefferson · August 27th, 2005, 06:50 AM

thanks ken, thats EXACTLY what i was looking for!!!!!!!!

Peter Jefferson · August 28th, 2005, 05:37 AM

now this i strange.. i dunno if this is the way its supposed to work?? Some pics look stunning.. then i throw on another pic, i get a pseudo negative kind of effect?? Is this normal?? I know im "cross processing" but id like to think that it would behave similarlry on all pictures...???
any ideas on a good shot setting to get optimal E6?? ive never crossprocessed, but is ther acertain shooting method to get the most out of it? ie, underexpose/overexpose etc etc

Ken Tanaka · August 28th, 2005, 11:41 AM

I'm sure there are general guidelines but I sure don't know where they are. In general, the Digital Film Tools people try very hard to get their film simulation tools to behave in the same manner as real film would behave. You might want to write to them to see if they can offer some guidance. They really are good folks.

Peter Jefferson · September 12th, 2005, 04:18 PM

thanks ken, ill do some experimenting...

until then i wait with bated breath for the 5D... ;)

Tom Vandas · September 21st, 2005, 04:15 AM

Peter, for what it's worth, here's a digital crossprocess that allows a bit more flexibilty than 55mm (I like and use the DFT stuff all the time), go to this tutorial and download the zip file:

http://www.dcmag.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/662/v/1/sp/

What I like best is that I can define the colors, get different results. You do the same using ColorCorrect in 55mm, but I prefer to use the adjustment layers in PS, I always seem to get better results.

August 26th, 2005, 08:47 AM	#1
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Cross Processing (E6) with Digital Okies, ive thrown my hand across afew pics in an attempt to achieve this look on digital. Now with Video, i can easily emulate this with colour curves and the glow filters.. but with stills, im at a loss as to where to begin.. any ideas? Im using Photoshop CS2 and Ulead PhotoImpact 6 (it does almsot everything photoshop does but it was dirt cheap) I also have AutoFX Mystical Lighting which has helped in many situations ive tried contrasts etc, but for some reason i jstu cant get it right.. i dont know what it is... but to most it might LOOK ok.. but for me it just doesnt "Feel" right.. hard to explain but for me photography is very powerful and like video, gettin the look i desire is in post is as important as the shot itself. In fac tfor what i do, Post work would probably outweigh the work i do in the actual shoot itself.. in the meantime i wait for the arrival of the 5D... ive decided im going for the full frame baby.. albeit 3 grand more expensive than the 20d, in the longrun though, i wont have to upgrade too soon, and id have a larger canvas to play with too.. so that will also help.. among other benefits of the 5d.. which i wotn go into here.

August 27th, 2005, 01:44 AM	#4
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Try Digital Film Tools' 55M Suite. It's an excellent set of plug-ins for such effects. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

August 28th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#7
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	I'm sure there are general guidelines but I sure don't know where they are. In general, the Digital Film Tools people try very hard to get their film simulation tools to behave in the same manner as real film would behave. You might want to write to them to see if they can offer some guidance. They really are good folks. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

August 26th, 2005, 09:44 AM	#2
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	I do not understand... why not use the same Curves and glow filters in your editing application? I know you can with Photoshop.

August 26th, 2005, 06:43 PM	#3
Cannon Pearson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 123	Try using a Curves adjustment layer in Photoshop, make radical color changes and then experiment with different blend modes such as overlay or color burn.

August 27th, 2005, 06:50 AM	#5
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	thanks ken, thats EXACTLY what i was looking for!!!!!!!!

August 28th, 2005, 05:37 AM	#6
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	now this i strange.. i dunno if this is the way its supposed to work?? Some pics look stunning.. then i throw on another pic, i get a pseudo negative kind of effect?? Is this normal?? I know im "cross processing" but id like to think that it would behave similarlry on all pictures...??? any ideas on a good shot setting to get optimal E6?? ive never crossprocessed, but is ther acertain shooting method to get the most out of it? ie, underexpose/overexpose etc etc

September 12th, 2005, 04:18 PM	#8
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	thanks ken, ill do some experimenting... until then i wait with bated breath for the 5D... ;)

September 21st, 2005, 04:15 AM	#9
Tom Vandas Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: currently in Kigali, Rwanda Posts: 144	Peter, for what it's worth, here's a digital crossprocess that allows a bit more flexibilty than 55mm (I like and use the DFT stuff all the time), go to this tutorial and download the zip file: http://www.dcmag.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/662/v/1/sp/ What I like best is that I can define the colors, get different results. You do the same using ColorCorrect in 55mm, but I prefer to use the adjustment layers in PS, I always seem to get better results.