Movie Short shot with Canon 20D!

Dorothy Engleman · April 30th, 2005, 12:02 AM

I can't view the movie, boo hoo. Can someone please describe this clip?

Here's something that sounds exciting: the soon-to-be-released Canon S2 IS:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/con...id=7-6466-7774

Dorothy

Dorothy Engleman · May 2nd, 2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaoli Wang

Actually, the sensor size of the 20D (22.5 x 15.0 mm) is quite close to that of a 35mm movie frame (24 x 18 mm), rather than 2/3" HD camera (8.8 x 6.6 mm).

This is a pretty innovative experiment...you pretty much get a projectable quality 35mm-like image with similar DOF as long as you find a way to get around the frame rate and short takes.

Isn't there some DSLR that can shoot at 14fps?

After viewing this movie at our local Apple Store today, let me add another enthusiastic "WOW"!!!

This is indeed a pretty cool experiment which I can't wait to explore with the soon-to-be-released Canon 12x Powershot S2 IS which can shoot at 30 and 15fps.

Thanks for sharing this exciting clip!

Dorothy

Xiaoli Wang · May 2nd, 2005, 08:49 PM

Actually, the S2 1S only does 2.4fps, you're talking about the movie mode.

Dorothy Engleman · May 2nd, 2005, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaoli Wang

Actually, the S2 1S only does 2.4fps, you're talking about the movie mode.

Xiaoli, are you saying this movie at 5fps was composed in the still camera mode? Dorothy

Xiaoli Wang · May 2nd, 2005, 09:07 PM

Yes...that's the point of the whole film/thread...

The 20D can do 5 fps for up to 23 frames. It doesn't have a movie mode as it is an SLR.

Dorothy Engleman · May 2nd, 2005, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaoli Wang

Yes...that's the point of the whole film/thread...

The 20D can do 5 fps for up to 23 frames. It doesn't have a movie mode as it is an SLR.

Yikes, thanks Xiaoli! My brain definitely was MIA for this thread!

So, if the maximum continuous shooting was 23 frames, this movie must've been a herculean task to shoot and edit. Or was there an easier way to pull this off? Dorothy

Xiaoli Wang · May 2nd, 2005, 10:23 PM

I'd imagine so, considering it'd be over a thousand images and a few gigs of space. The most bothersome part would probably be the 5 second takes, but you can tell about every 5 seconds he changes to another scene.

With a fast computer and good organizational skills it is do-able, as already proven.

The most interesting part in my opinion is the sensor size of DSLRs and the 35mm-like images it can produce.

Jeremy Peterson · May 8th, 2005, 01:50 AM

Your short film reminded me allot of early silent films, I keep expecting a black screen with text explaining the scene to pop up. I like the technique very much, very creative.

I also have a 20d, and when set to record small images (1728x1152) you can more or less take images at 5fps until you run out of space. I was able to take 750 continually until I ran out of space.

Michael Struthers · May 8th, 2005, 01:01 PM

This looks very much like video shot with a sony HD 950 Cinealta. Some noise in the blacks. Very cool.

Jack Zhang · June 21st, 2005, 11:52 PM

Can you render the movie in WMV HD? looks way better that way.

Nick Hiltgen · June 24th, 2005, 08:31 PM

how can you tell the differenc between a 950 and a 900?

Chris Hurd · June 25th, 2005, 01:52 PM

Quote:

how can you tell the differenc between a 950 and a 900?

If you're only on a first mortgage, it's the newer 950. If it's the second mortgage, then it's the older 900.

Adam Burtle · June 29th, 2005, 10:00 AM

i'm not on here much nowadays.. but i just thought i'd comment that i's cool to see someone else doing this.. i thought i was the only one.

i've been shooting short clips with a DSLR for a film we have in production since late 2004. [edit: and my first real experiments doing so were in 2003.. i think i posted some of them here] It's been a very interesting process, and can produce some very unique results.. getting a slow-mo-sped-up savingprivateryan type effect is very easy, especially if you shoot shutter priority (as the built in exposure meter isnt perfect etc and each frame will be slightly pushed or pulled, causing flickering). I've been shooting very fast shutter (1/500th or quicker) and then using blurring algorhythm + track matte in post to simulate a more natural filmic look. Also, i've been shooting handheld, and going for weird bullet-time jib type motions.. which produces some jittery crazy movement (that I like).. but with the overall resolution available, I've also found as long as you don't frame anything too tightly.. you can always use the extra resolution to motion track and stabilize the footage, further concealing it's origins. Such a shame it will eventually be 480p.. rotoscoping at 3k is remarkably fun :). In a few weeks when post is totally finished, i'll post some 720/24p clips here if i can remember heh.

i've also been doing some other unique stuff with the DSLR i am 99.9% certain no one else is doing.. but i'm keeping that a secret for now ;)

Nick Hiltgen · July 12th, 2005, 02:59 PM

Ha! excellent point chris...

Jack Zhang · July 15th, 2005, 03:32 PM

This movie goes perfect with a song from the game "Sly 2: Band of Theives". I recompressed the original movie into H.264 at 140Kb\s and used uncompressed audio to sync the music with the video and I must say it almost fits the sped up 24fps footage. In case you've played the game, the music is from the part where you're in Dimitri's nightclub. The file size is about 70 to 80MBs but I can't upload it (I wanna respect Patryk Rebisz).

May 8th, 2005, 01:50 AM	#23
Jeremy Peterson Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 34	Your short film reminded me allot of early silent films, I keep expecting a black screen with text explaining the scene to pop up. I like the technique very much, very creative. I also have a 20d, and when set to record small images (1728x1152) you can more or less take images at 5fps until you run out of space. I was able to take 750 continually until I ran out of space. __________________ Jeremy 4volt.com Last edited by Jeremy Peterson; May 8th, 2005 at 02:40 AM.

May 8th, 2005, 01:01 PM	#24
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	This looks very much like video shot with a sony HD 950 Cinealta. Some noise in the blacks. Very cool. __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

April 30th, 2005, 12:02 AM	#16
Dorothy Engleman Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Santa Monica, California Posts: 146	I can't view the movie, boo hoo. Can someone please describe this clip? Here's something that sounds exciting: the soon-to-be-released Canon S2 IS: http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/con...id=7-6466-7774 Dorothy

May 2nd, 2005, 08:49 PM	#18
Xiaoli Wang Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 94	Actually, the S2 1S only does 2.4fps, you're talking about the movie mode.

May 2nd, 2005, 09:07 PM	#20
Xiaoli Wang Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 94	Yes...that's the point of the whole film/thread... The 20D can do 5 fps for up to 23 frames. It doesn't have a movie mode as it is an SLR.

May 2nd, 2005, 10:23 PM	#22
Xiaoli Wang Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 94	I'd imagine so, considering it'd be over a thousand images and a few gigs of space. The most bothersome part would probably be the 5 second takes, but you can tell about every 5 seconds he changes to another scene. With a fast computer and good organizational skills it is do-able, as already proven. The most interesting part in my opinion is the sensor size of DSLRs and the 35mm-like images it can produce.

June 21st, 2005, 11:52 PM	#25
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Can you render the movie in WMV HD? looks way better that way.

June 24th, 2005, 08:31 PM	#26
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	how can you tell the differenc between a 950 and a 900?

June 29th, 2005, 10:00 AM	#28
Adam Burtle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 173	i'm not on here much nowadays.. but i just thought i'd comment that i's cool to see someone else doing this.. i thought i was the only one. i've been shooting short clips with a DSLR for a film we have in production since late 2004. [edit: and my first real experiments doing so were in 2003.. i think i posted some of them here] It's been a very interesting process, and can produce some very unique results.. getting a slow-mo-sped-up savingprivateryan type effect is very easy, especially if you shoot shutter priority (as the built in exposure meter isnt perfect etc and each frame will be slightly pushed or pulled, causing flickering). I've been shooting very fast shutter (1/500th or quicker) and then using blurring algorhythm + track matte in post to simulate a more natural filmic look. Also, i've been shooting handheld, and going for weird bullet-time jib type motions.. which produces some jittery crazy movement (that I like).. but with the overall resolution available, I've also found as long as you don't frame anything too tightly.. you can always use the extra resolution to motion track and stabilize the footage, further concealing it's origins. Such a shame it will eventually be 480p.. rotoscoping at 3k is remarkably fun :). In a few weeks when post is totally finished, i'll post some 720/24p clips here if i can remember heh. i've also been doing some other unique stuff with the DSLR i am 99.9% certain no one else is doing.. but i'm keeping that a secret for now ;)

July 12th, 2005, 02:59 PM	#29
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Ha! excellent point chris...

July 15th, 2005, 03:32 PM	#30
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	This movie goes perfect with a song from the game "Sly 2: Band of Theives". I recompressed the original movie into H.264 at 140Kb\s and used uncompressed audio to sync the music with the video and I must say it almost fits the sped up 24fps footage. In case you've played the game, the music is from the part where you're in Dimitri's nightclub. The file size is about 70 to 80MBs but I can't upload it (I wanna respect Patryk Rebisz).