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Frank Granovski · April 21st, 2004, 05:37 PM

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Canon's new Digital Rebel DSLR is available in a kit with a 18-55mm lens. The lens has the smooth and fast USM ultrasonic motor in Japan, but uses the inferior AFD micro-motor in the US.

Dylan Couper · April 21st, 2004, 11:49 PM

I think I read that on the internet, so it must be true.

Actually, I think I read it on dpreview.com

Also, the Digital Rebel is now BLACK!!!
(a new black version will be shipped soon, anyway)

Frank Granovski · April 22nd, 2004, 01:24 AM

Yeah, I don't know why we get scre_ed from these companies. I posted a link at Area 51 with other examples regarding what we don't get here. Are consumers that stupid?

John Garcia · April 22nd, 2004, 11:37 AM

hmm...black rebel....wow...awesome...

heh...i just sold my rebel...i got a 10d now! :)

Robert Sato · April 23rd, 2004, 04:16 PM

Seems like the 'Welcome Kit' version with Black Drebel, 18-55mm, 55-200mm is 148,000yen ~ 1340USD.

Add shipping, I'm guessing $150 ... under 1500USD total.

Is the ultrasonicmotor lens that much better than the other one?

Robert

John Garcia · April 23rd, 2004, 06:57 PM

wow...and now theyre throwing in a 55-200!

Robert Sato · April 24th, 2004, 05:08 AM

The regular 'lens kit' with the Drebel, 18-55mm seems to be 121,000 yen.

I've seen the US market sell the Drebel w/lens as low as $899 on the net.

I'm wondering if the USM lens is worth the difference?

Robert

Jeff Donald · May 10th, 2004, 08:48 PM

The USM motor is not that critical in a small lens like the 18-55mm. The 55-200mm is not so great a lens. Canon had tons left over from their APS SLR experiments.

The USM lens would be quieter and focus slightly faster. It would make a difference in a larger, heavier lens.

Robert Sato · May 11th, 2004, 06:41 PM

Thanks. Your explanation makes me think that USM is nice but not worth the premium.

I haven't pulled the trigger on the Drebel nor the 10D. Kinda making the backordered muvo2 as my excuse to sit on the fence.

Robert

Jeff Donald · May 11th, 2004, 09:33 PM

I've shot with both (own the 10D) and prefer the 10D. Image quality is the same, however. If you can live with the few limitations of the Digital Rebel, it would be my choice, on a cost basis. The 10D is a much better camera and worth the extra $$ if you're going to shoot much.

Ignacio Rodriguez · May 11th, 2004, 11:33 PM

Sorry I am asking this question for a friend and perhaps you guys can clear this up... which Canon digital still cam can share lenses with the XL1? You see he has one of those, his photo kit (Nikon) got recently stolen from his car and he wants to buy all Nikon again... but I think if he buys a Canon digicam he might be able to share lenses... so which camera should he buy that will allow him to share lenses easily among his video and photo cams?

April 21st, 2004, 11:49 PM	#2
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I think I read that on the internet, so it must be true. Actually, I think I read it on dpreview.com Also, the Digital Rebel is now BLACK!!! (a new black version will be shipped soon, anyway) __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

April 22nd, 2004, 11:37 AM	#4
John Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 199	hmm...black rebel....wow...awesome... heh...i just sold my rebel...i got a 10d now! :) __________________ John Garcia

April 23rd, 2004, 06:57 PM	#6
John Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 199	wow...and now theyre throwing in a 55-200! __________________ John Garcia

May 10th, 2004, 08:48 PM	#8
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The USM motor is not that critical in a small lens like the 18-55mm. The 55-200mm is not so great a lens. Canon had tons left over from their APS SLR experiments. The USM lens would be quieter and focus slightly faster. It would make a difference in a larger, heavier lens. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 11th, 2004, 09:33 PM	#10
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I've shot with both (own the 10D) and prefer the 10D. Image quality is the same, however. If you can live with the few limitations of the Digital Rebel, it would be my choice, on a cost basis. The 10D is a much better camera and worth the extra $$ if you're going to shoot much. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 22nd, 2004, 01:24 AM	#3
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yeah, I don't know why we get scre_ed from these companies. I posted a link at Area 51 with other examples regarding what we don't get here. Are consumers that stupid?

April 23rd, 2004, 04:16 PM	#5
Robert Sato Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 31	Seems like the 'Welcome Kit' version with Black Drebel, 18-55mm, 55-200mm is 148,000yen ~ 1340USD. Add shipping, I'm guessing $150 ... under 1500USD total. Is the ultrasonicmotor lens that much better than the other one? Robert

April 24th, 2004, 05:08 AM	#7
Robert Sato Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 31	The regular 'lens kit' with the Drebel, 18-55mm seems to be 121,000 yen. I've seen the US market sell the Drebel w/lens as low as $899 on the net. I'm wondering if the USM lens is worth the difference? Robert

May 11th, 2004, 06:41 PM	#9
Robert Sato Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 31	Thanks. Your explanation makes me think that USM is nice but not worth the premium. I haven't pulled the trigger on the Drebel nor the 10D. Kinda making the backordered muvo2 as my excuse to sit on the fence. Robert

May 11th, 2004, 11:33 PM	#11
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Sorry I am asking this question for a friend and perhaps you guys can clear this up... which Canon digital still cam can share lenses with the XL1? You see he has one of those, his photo kit (Nikon) got recently stolen from his car and he wants to buy all Nikon again... but I think if he buys a Canon digicam he might be able to share lenses... so which camera should he buy that will allow him to share lenses easily among his video and photo cams? __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.