NEW Digital Rebel announced. US price . . . at DVinfo.net

Jeff Donald · August 20th, 2003, 02:25 PM

Canon has announce that the new Digital Rebel will be available next month. US price is said to be under $900. A new line of lenses (read more economical), ES lenses, will also start shipping soon.

Alex Knappenberger · August 20th, 2003, 02:38 PM

Under $900 for a DSLR?!? Wow, 6.5MP too! Jeez. This is what i've been waiting for here. :D

Now I just need a job so I can buy this puppy!

Is there a magnification factor on the lenses? I'm doubting the censor is full 35mm size, right?

Dylan Couper · August 20th, 2003, 02:55 PM

Hmm...
Looks like this will be a better buy than a used D30 (same price range), right?

Jeff Donald · August 20th, 2003, 03:27 PM

D-30 will have to drop in price. This is basically a 10D, in a little different outer plastic. It probably doesn't have a metal inner frame, either. It looks to be the same CMOS chip, AF, AE but a few less features (no 3200 ISO/ASA, fewer RAW/JPEG options). It also has it's own EF-S lens. This is so users can cover a normal zoom range without purchasing the $700 17-40mm EF lens.

I expect D-30's to drop several hundred dollars below the Digital Rebel. It might also mean that the 10D would drop a few hundred.

Dylan Couper · August 20th, 2003, 03:56 PM

Wow, I'm glad I didn't buy a D30 yet!!!

It says it has an EF mount, and takes EF and EF-S lenses, so a user wouldn't be limited to only the EF-S glass, correct?

Too bad it isn't black.

Matt Betea · August 20th, 2003, 06:11 PM

What I'm not understanding is, the EF-S lenses. The DRebel has the same sized sensor and EF mount. But from what I've read on sites the EF-S lens(es) are only compatable with the DRebel? I was hearing these lenses aren't the best build quality and that it's a line for consumers so, like Jeff said they don't have to pay several hundred dollars on one lens. But I don't know, I guess I'll wait to say anything until it's reviewed or seen. As I've heard people are saying the EF-S is Canon's answer to the DX lenses, ah gotta love the internet!

Jeff Donald · August 20th, 2003, 08:11 PM

Pure speculation here, put I think the price point of the EF-S lens (lenses?) will be fairly modest. The looks of the lens is rather plasticy. I suspect the optical and build quality will be mediocre.

Nikon, however, is striving for a better quality in their DX lenses. Two different marketing approaches, I suspect.

Matt Betea · August 20th, 2003, 09:25 PM

True, that makes more sense. I would have thought if Canon was going to off some type of DX lens, they would make the lens compatible with their other 1.6x camera(s). Then again I was reading some of the stuff from a rabid "fanboy" forum, so I should've known better. <g> Thanks for clarification.

matt

Imran Zaidi · August 20th, 2003, 09:25 PM

I have a Canon Rebel 2000 35mm camera. In theory, I should be able to use the lenses I have on the body of this new digital Rebel?

Hmmm... it says any Canon EF lens should work.

Wow! Jeff, thanks for sharing this news. This is the most excited I've been about a new product since the GL2 came out. And I ended up getting one.

Adrian Douglas · August 21st, 2003, 10:02 AM

Here's a first look at the EOS300D (Digital Rebel) on Photo.net

Bill Ravens · August 21st, 2003, 12:41 PM

plastic is the name of the game for this camera. if anyone out there has ever put a canon zoom lens on their slr, they know how much torque that puppy puts on the camera body/lens mount. I suggest that one reason canon is providing ersatz lenses for this 300D is because it can't take the weight of their "L" lenses.

Adrian Douglas · August 21st, 2003, 07:47 PM

This camera isn't really aimed at users of L lenses, it's a cam for the consumer that want a little more than the S or G series compact digitals offer but don't want the size or expense of the more "pro" 10D. The EF-S lens is designed particularly for the 1.6x conversion factor as well providing an inexpensive lens to keep the cost of the package down. A digital SLR and lens for a street price of under a grand, should be quite popular.

Dylan Couper · October 1st, 2003, 03:24 PM

Does anyone know if there is a movie mode on this camera?
I read a large review of it on Steve's Digi-cams, and it didn't say anything about it.

Apparently Canon plans to produce and sell 70,000 of these, per month, and the EF-S lens is only available with purchase of the camera kit.

Still waiting to sell my Elan 7 so I can buy one. Anyone here have one yet?

Jeff Donald · October 1st, 2003, 03:49 PM

It does not have a movie feature.

Alex Ratson · October 1st, 2003, 03:53 PM

From what I have herd about this new camera is that it is not built to sturdy and is missing some of the custom settings of its prosummer sibling the 10D. In conclusion I would not recommend this camera unless the user only wanted the feeling of a bigger body with a G3 feature set along with the added bonus of interchangeable lenses. If you are serious about photography its probably a better investment to buy a 10D or even better (in my opinion) a Nikon D100.

Happy Shooting
Alex

August 20th, 2003, 02:25 PM	#1
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	NEW Digital Rebel announced. US price . . . Canon has announce that the new Digital Rebel will be available next month. US price is said to be under $900. A new line of lenses (read more economical), ES lenses, will also start shipping soon. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 20th, 2003, 02:55 PM	#3
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Hmm... Looks like this will be a better buy than a used D30 (same price range), right? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

August 20th, 2003, 03:27 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	D-30 will have to drop in price. This is basically a 10D, in a little different outer plastic. It probably doesn't have a metal inner frame, either. It looks to be the same CMOS chip, AF, AE but a few less features (no 3200 ISO/ASA, fewer RAW/JPEG options). It also has it's own EF-S lens. This is so users can cover a normal zoom range without purchasing the $700 17-40mm EF lens. I expect D-30's to drop several hundred dollars below the Digital Rebel. It might also mean that the 10D would drop a few hundred. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 20th, 2003, 03:56 PM	#5
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Wow, I'm glad I didn't buy a D30 yet!!! It says it has an EF mount, and takes EF and EF-S lenses, so a user wouldn't be limited to only the EF-S glass, correct? Too bad it isn't black. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

August 20th, 2003, 08:11 PM	#7
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Pure speculation here, put I think the price point of the EF-S lens (lenses?) will be fairly modest. The looks of the lens is rather plasticy. I suspect the optical and build quality will be mediocre. Nikon, however, is striving for a better quality in their DX lenses. Two different marketing approaches, I suspect. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 20th, 2003, 02:38 PM	#2
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Under $900 for a DSLR?!? Wow, 6.5MP too! Jeez. This is what i've been waiting for here. :D Now I just need a job so I can buy this puppy! Is there a magnification factor on the lenses? I'm doubting the censor is full 35mm size, right?

August 20th, 2003, 06:11 PM	#6
Matt Betea Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: detroit, mi Posts: 187	What I'm not understanding is, the EF-S lenses. The DRebel has the same sized sensor and EF mount. But from what I've read on sites the EF-S lens(es) are only compatable with the DRebel? I was hearing these lenses aren't the best build quality and that it's a line for consumers so, like Jeff said they don't have to pay several hundred dollars on one lens. But I don't know, I guess I'll wait to say anything until it's reviewed or seen. As I've heard people are saying the EF-S is Canon's answer to the DX lenses, ah gotta love the internet!

August 20th, 2003, 09:25 PM	#8
Matt Betea Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: detroit, mi Posts: 187	True, that makes more sense. I would have thought if Canon was going to off some type of DX lens, they would make the lens compatible with their other 1.6x camera(s). Then again I was reading some of the stuff from a rabid "fanboy" forum, so I should've known better. <g> Thanks for clarification. matt

August 20th, 2003, 09:25 PM	#9
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	I have a Canon Rebel 2000 35mm camera. In theory, I should be able to use the lenses I have on the body of this new digital Rebel? Hmmm... it says any Canon EF lens should work. Wow! Jeff, thanks for sharing this news. This is the most excited I've been about a new product since the GL2 came out. And I ended up getting one.

August 21st, 2003, 10:02 AM	#10
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Here's a first look at the EOS300D (Digital Rebel) on Photo.net __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

August 21st, 2003, 12:41 PM	#11
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	plastic is the name of the game for this camera. if anyone out there has ever put a canon zoom lens on their slr, they know how much torque that puppy puts on the camera body/lens mount. I suggest that one reason canon is providing ersatz lenses for this 300D is because it can't take the weight of their "L" lenses.

August 21st, 2003, 07:47 PM	#12
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	This camera isn't really aimed at users of L lenses, it's a cam for the consumer that want a little more than the S or G series compact digitals offer but don't want the size or expense of the more "pro" 10D. The EF-S lens is designed particularly for the 1.6x conversion factor as well providing an inexpensive lens to keep the cost of the package down. A digital SLR and lens for a street price of under a grand, should be quite popular. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

October 1st, 2003, 03:24 PM	#13
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Does anyone know if there is a movie mode on this camera? I read a large review of it on Steve's Digi-cams, and it didn't say anything about it. Apparently Canon plans to produce and sell 70,000 of these, per month, and the EF-S lens is only available with purchase of the camera kit. Still waiting to sell my Elan 7 so I can buy one. Anyone here have one yet? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

October 1st, 2003, 03:49 PM	#14
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	It does not have a movie feature. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 1st, 2003, 03:53 PM	#15
Alex Ratson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squamish, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 149	From what I have herd about this new camera is that it is not built to sturdy and is missing some of the custom settings of its prosummer sibling the 10D. In conclusion I would not recommend this camera unless the user only wanted the feeling of a bigger body with a G3 feature set along with the added bonus of interchangeable lenses. If you are serious about photography its probably a better investment to buy a 10D or even better (in my opinion) a Nikon D100. Happy Shooting Alex