Sportster Alternative? at DVinfo.net

Dana Salsbury · June 13th, 2007, 10:23 PM

I have an Ultralight and am about to buy a Sportster, and am wondering if there are alternatives, or if this is another area where you have to buy the name brand. I also am wondering if another company's vest would have the same fittings and general design.

Mikko Wilson · June 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM

What camera(s) are you flying? What is your budget? And what type of shooting are you dooing?

- Mikko

Dana Salsbury · June 14th, 2007, 11:39 AM

...an FX1. I already have a Ultralite, so I just need the vest and pivot thing. I don't mind dropping $800 or so, it just seems like a simple enough design that there would be others making them for less.

Dana Salsbury · June 14th, 2007, 11:51 AM

I shoot weddings and am launching into Real Estate walk-thrus.

I like your demo vid BTW

Mikko Wilson · June 14th, 2007, 06:24 PM

By "pivot thing", are you refering to the arm?

They are much more complicated than they look - especially to get right. You won't find a good quality stabilizer arm & vest for 800.

Is the Ultralite getting too heavy for you to carry?

- Mikko

Terry Thompson · June 14th, 2007, 11:32 PM

Dana,

It's the real estate walkthroughs that will get you. There is a lot of shooting to do in order to get the whole house on video. It will get really tuff on your arm.

As Mikko said, there is a lot more to the "pivot thing" than meets the eye. Those who build know about that. We just adapted our arm to fly the Steadicam JR and Merlin. I wonder if it can be done with the Ultralite.

Tery
Indicam

Dana Salsbury · June 15th, 2007, 12:38 PM

They're going to do a review of the Sportster. My Ultralite has a bad gimble, so I'm waiting for the replacement (they replaced the gimble on the new model.) It's also by Varizoom, and is designed for the Ultralite. (No money-back guarantee on the Ultralite).

I wish I could get an Archer and look cool like Mikko. If I knew I could pay for it from home walk-thrus, I would go that direction, but it looks like walk-thrus are a roll of the dice.

Right now I do weddings exclusively, but just went FT and need another market. Real Estate and Legal Video seem to be the two biggest viable markets. If you know of other money-makers with a high-end vest system let me know. ;o)

Jaron Berman · June 15th, 2007, 04:46 PM

"High-End" is all relative. The originally mentioned budget of $800 will buy almost 2 "high end" batteries, definitely not a rig. Mikko's archer is a great rig, but for the size of camera you're looking to fly, it's overkill. The Flyer is "the" high-end rig for that weight of camera, all the way up to 15lb. At approx. 1/4 the price of an archer, you could even call it a bargain! (It's all relative). But in the end, it's not so much about paying it off, it's about making a profit. Spending 5 years working to pay off a rig is poor business.

Find what works for you, and as hard as it may be, try and avoid gear lust. We've all suffered from it at some point...but more important than having the best gear is having the setup that works for your needs. That's not to say you shouldn't look down the road a bit. But, if you see yourself using the same weight-class of camera for the next 10 years, there's no reason to get a rig that's built for 8 x that weight. You end up fighting it, and digging a nice hole of debt.

June 13th, 2007, 10:23 PM	#1
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Sportster Alternative? I have an Ultralight and am about to buy a Sportster, and am wondering if there are alternatives, or if this is another area where you have to buy the name brand. I also am wondering if another company's vest would have the same fittings and general design. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

June 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM	#2
Mikko Wilson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Juneau, Alaska, USA Posts: 624	What camera(s) are you flying? What is your budget? And what type of shooting are you dooing? - Mikko __________________ Mikko Wilson - Steadicam Owner / Operator - Juneau, Alaska, USA +1 (907) 321-8387 - mikkowilson@hotmail.com - www.mikkowilson.com

June 14th, 2007, 11:39 AM	#3
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	...an FX1. I already have a Ultralite, so I just need the vest and pivot thing. I don't mind dropping $800 or so, it just seems like a simple enough design that there would be others making them for less. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

June 14th, 2007, 11:51 AM	#4
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	I shoot weddings and am launching into Real Estate walk-thrus. I like your demo vid BTW __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

June 14th, 2007, 06:24 PM	#5
Mikko Wilson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Juneau, Alaska, USA Posts: 624	By "pivot thing", are you refering to the arm? They are much more complicated than they look - especially to get right. You won't find a good quality stabilizer arm & vest for 800. Is the Ultralite getting too heavy for you to carry? - Mikko __________________ Mikko Wilson - Steadicam Owner / Operator - Juneau, Alaska, USA +1 (907) 321-8387 - mikkowilson@hotmail.com - www.mikkowilson.com

June 14th, 2007, 11:32 PM	#6
Terry Thompson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 578	Dana, It's the real estate walkthroughs that will get you. There is a lot of shooting to do in order to get the whole house on video. It will get really tuff on your arm. As Mikko said, there is a lot more to the "pivot thing" than meets the eye. Those who build know about that. We just adapted our arm to fly the Steadicam JR and Merlin. I wonder if it can be done with the Ultralite. Tery Indicam __________________ He's only mostly sDEADy. sort of from "The Princess Bride" www.indicam.com

June 15th, 2007, 12:38 PM	#7
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	They're going to do a review of the Sportster. My Ultralite has a bad gimble, so I'm waiting for the replacement (they replaced the gimble on the new model.) It's also by Varizoom, and is designed for the Ultralite. (No money-back guarantee on the Ultralite). I wish I could get an Archer and look cool like Mikko. If I knew I could pay for it from home walk-thrus, I would go that direction, but it looks like walk-thrus are a roll of the dice. Right now I do weddings exclusively, but just went FT and need another market. Real Estate and Legal Video seem to be the two biggest viable markets. If you know of other money-makers with a high-end vest system let me know. ;o) __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

June 15th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#8
Jaron Berman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 439	"High-End" is all relative. The originally mentioned budget of $800 will buy almost 2 "high end" batteries, definitely not a rig. Mikko's archer is a great rig, but for the size of camera you're looking to fly, it's overkill. The Flyer is "the" high-end rig for that weight of camera, all the way up to 15lb. At approx. 1/4 the price of an archer, you could even call it a bargain! (It's all relative). But in the end, it's not so much about paying it off, it's about making a profit. Spending 5 years working to pay off a rig is poor business. Find what works for you, and as hard as it may be, try and avoid gear lust. We've all suffered from it at some point...but more important than having the best gear is having the setup that works for your needs. That's not to say you shouldn't look down the road a bit. But, if you see yourself using the same weight-class of camera for the next 10 years, there's no reason to get a rig that's built for 8 x that weight. You end up fighting it, and digging a nice hole of debt.