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Trung Dau · May 24th, 2006, 12:37 PM

As a poor student, workshop is over my budget. I do practice by myself with the Glidecam and the JVC HD100 at home but I always correct myself differently. I'm so confused what the correct way for using it smothly is. Thus i'm searching for DVD or book or any tips, but it's difficult to find out. I bought the "Advanced steadicam techniques" DVD, but it seem to be far away from my knowledge. If Someone know anything would help, Please give some advice. How did u practice when u were a beginer?

Richard Lewis · May 24th, 2006, 02:16 PM

I don’t know if you are using a full rig or a handheld, but…

Try and get a copy of the "EFP Training Tape”. Cinema Products used to ship these with Steadicam EFPs. It's presented by Ted Churchill and Jerry Holway and it talks you through the basics.
It’s aimed at full rigs, but it should help you with your understanding of setup and balance.
A good tape if you are starting out.

There is also a lot of resource material on Steadicams website.
Do try to take a workshop tho, if you want to progress further.

Rick

Trung Dau · May 24th, 2006, 04:57 PM

thanks Richard! I don't know where can i get the tape. I'm using the gliecam V8, the fullrig. Can u tell me the sites, I got the sites in my bookmarks, but after formating, I recognized that i didn't save all the bookmarks for the backup.
Thanks alot

Mikko Wilson · May 24th, 2006, 05:52 PM

Some good steadicam reading: http://www.steadicam-ops.com/soamanual.shtml

Doesn't Glidecam have any similar support for their rigs?

- Mikko

Trung Dau · May 24th, 2006, 06:04 PM

I'm not sure because i got a secondhand one from a guy.And it would be a good thread for beginners, because I was searching around. THere wan not much infomation for beginers. Anyways thanks for ur link.

David Tamés · May 24th, 2006, 06:14 PM

Glidecam has a whole collection of movies, both their own and those made by users, available for download from their web site, have you looked at these? The URL is http://glidecam.com/videos.php

There's a thread on Glidecam training here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=16069

And another thread of related interest here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49851

Assisting an experienced Steadicam or Glidecam operator in your area is a excellent way to start learning too.

Much of the stylistic and technique training that applies to the Steadicam will apply to the Glidecam, however, the specifics in terms of balance and esoterica will of course be unique to each.

Good Luck!

Richard Lewis · May 25th, 2006, 06:50 AM

Try contacting Tiffen to see if they have any videos lying around. They probably don't, but it's worth a try.

Rick.

Wayne Orr · May 25th, 2006, 12:49 PM

Whatever you do, avoid "Steadicam : Techniques and aesthetics" -- by Serena Ferrara.

This "book" was originally written for a master's thesis by the author, and although there are a few interesting interviews, this is not a book that will teach you Steadicam operating techniques, despite the title. Pass.

Wayne Orr, SOC

Trung Dau · May 25th, 2006, 10:47 PM

omg! thanks Wayne! I intended to buy that book on ebay serveral days ago but it wasn't a good deal, so I stoped. How lucky I'm!
Also thanks to Richard and David. hope more advice comming!!

Quoc Peyrot · May 25th, 2006, 10:49 PM

Hey Charles, how's your training DVD going? :)

Regards,
Quoc

Terry Thompson · May 26th, 2006, 01:14 AM

Trung,

We are also looking forward to Charles' DVD. He's and excellent teacher and his DVD will be first class. Until then...

We are putting together a "Stabilization Basics" training DVD instructed by Cody Deegan. We just need one more day of shooting but Cody's tied up for the next few weeks. Once we get the shots we need it will be editing time.

It should be an informative and fun DVD and is intended for the beginner and novice user.

Here is a link to what we intend to cover:
http://www.indicam.com/index.php?opt...d=16&Itemid=41

Terry
Indicam

Trung Dau · May 26th, 2006, 02:24 AM

Thanks TErry,

I sent a email to ask about DVD already. IT's not released yet. SO that's why i keeping searching now. IS there a date for releasing the DVD? Beginners of the world is waiting for it.

Terry Thompson · May 26th, 2006, 10:23 AM

Trung,

I passed this thread on to Cody.

He said he would give me some time in June. It seems like forever but we will finish it!

Thanks,

Tery
Indicam

May 24th, 2006, 12:37 PM	#1
Trung Dau Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 51	searching for DVD or book for beginer As a poor student, workshop is over my budget. I do practice by myself with the Glidecam and the JVC HD100 at home but I always correct myself differently. I'm so confused what the correct way for using it smothly is. Thus i'm searching for DVD or book or any tips, but it's difficult to find out. I bought the "Advanced steadicam techniques" DVD, but it seem to be far away from my knowledge. If Someone know anything would help, Please give some advice. How did u practice when u were a beginer?

May 24th, 2006, 02:16 PM	#2
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	I don’t know if you are using a full rig or a handheld, but… Try and get a copy of the "EFP Training Tape”. Cinema Products used to ship these with Steadicam EFPs. It's presented by Ted Churchill and Jerry Holway and it talks you through the basics. It’s aimed at full rigs, but it should help you with your understanding of setup and balance. A good tape if you are starting out. There is also a lot of resource material on Steadicams website. Do try to take a workshop tho, if you want to progress further. Rick __________________ Richard Lewis. Steadicam Owner / Operator

May 24th, 2006, 05:52 PM	#4
Mikko Wilson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Juneau, Alaska, USA Posts: 624	Some good steadicam reading: http://www.steadicam-ops.com/soamanual.shtml Doesn't Glidecam have any similar support for their rigs? - Mikko __________________ Mikko Wilson - Steadicam Owner / Operator - Juneau, Alaska, USA +1 (907) 321-8387 - mikkowilson@hotmail.com - www.mikkowilson.com

May 24th, 2006, 06:14 PM	#6
David Tamés Kino-Eye Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 457	Glidecam has a whole collection of movies, both their own and those made by users, available for download from their web site, have you looked at these? The URL is http://glidecam.com/videos.php There's a thread on Glidecam training here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=16069 And another thread of related interest here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49851 Assisting an experienced Steadicam or Glidecam operator in your area is a excellent way to start learning too. Much of the stylistic and technique training that applies to the Steadicam will apply to the Glidecam, however, the specifics in terms of balance and esoterica will of course be unique to each. Good Luck! __________________ David Tames { blog: http://Kino-Eye.com twitter: @cinemakinoeye }

May 25th, 2006, 06:50 AM	#7
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	Try contacting Tiffen to see if they have any videos lying around. They probably don't, but it's worth a try. Rick. __________________ Richard Lewis. Steadicam Owner / Operator

May 24th, 2006, 04:57 PM	#3
Trung Dau Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 51	thanks Richard! I don't know where can i get the tape. I'm using the gliecam V8, the fullrig. Can u tell me the sites, I got the sites in my bookmarks, but after formating, I recognized that i didn't save all the bookmarks for the backup. Thanks alot

May 24th, 2006, 06:04 PM	#5
Trung Dau Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 51	I'm not sure because i got a secondhand one from a guy.And it would be a good thread for beginners, because I was searching around. THere wan not much infomation for beginers. Anyways thanks for ur link.

May 25th, 2006, 12:49 PM	#8
Wayne Orr Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northridge Ca Posts: 734	Whatever you do, avoid "Steadicam : Techniques and aesthetics" -- by Serena Ferrara. This "book" was originally written for a master's thesis by the author, and although there are a few interesting interviews, this is not a book that will teach you Steadicam operating techniques, despite the title. Pass. Wayne Orr, SOC

May 25th, 2006, 10:47 PM	#9
Trung Dau Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 51	omg! thanks Wayne! I intended to buy that book on ebay serveral days ago but it wasn't a good deal, so I stoped. How lucky I'm! Also thanks to Richard and David. hope more advice comming!!

May 25th, 2006, 10:49 PM	#10
Quoc Peyrot Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 81	Hey Charles, how's your training DVD going? :) Regards, Quoc

May 26th, 2006, 01:14 AM	#11
Terry Thompson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 578	Trung, We are also looking forward to Charles' DVD. He's and excellent teacher and his DVD will be first class. Until then... We are putting together a "Stabilization Basics" training DVD instructed by Cody Deegan. We just need one more day of shooting but Cody's tied up for the next few weeks. Once we get the shots we need it will be editing time. It should be an informative and fun DVD and is intended for the beginner and novice user. Here is a link to what we intend to cover: http://www.indicam.com/index.php?opt...d=16&Itemid=41 Terry Indicam __________________ He's only mostly sDEADy. sort of from "The Princess Bride" www.indicam.com

May 26th, 2006, 02:24 AM	#12
Trung Dau Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 51	Thanks TErry, I sent a email to ask about DVD already. IT's not released yet. SO that's why i keeping searching now. IS there a date for releasing the DVD? Beginners of the world is waiting for it.

May 26th, 2006, 10:23 AM	#13
Terry Thompson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 578	Trung, I passed this thread on to Cody. He said he would give me some time in June. It seems like forever but we will finish it! Thanks, Tery Indicam __________________ He's only mostly sDEADy. sort of from "The Princess Bride" www.indicam.com