Steadicam JR price drop at DVinfo.net

Tony Hall · February 9th, 2005, 03:42 PM

Just looking at B&H and noticed that Steadicam JRs are selling for way less than they were a couple of weeks ago. Does this mean that an updated version is coming soon?

Marco Leavitt · February 9th, 2005, 03:52 PM

Just my luck. I bought one about three weeks ago. Grrr!

Tony Hall · February 9th, 2005, 03:58 PM

Yeah, I just bought a Nikon 8400. Three days later, they release their $100 rebate.

Bryan McCullough · February 9th, 2005, 04:06 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Tony Hall : Just looking at B&H and noticed that Steadicam JRs are selling for way less than they were a couple of weeks ago. Does this mean that an updated version is coming soon? -->>>

With NAB coming, anything could happen.

Cliff Hepburn · February 9th, 2005, 04:22 PM

What was the price 2 weeks ago?

Tony Hall · February 9th, 2005, 06:11 PM

I think it was 700 bucks or more. Luckily, I sold mine before the price drop.

I wouldn't recommend buying one now though. I'd wait and see if a new model is coming out.

Marco Leavitt · February 9th, 2005, 09:40 PM

It could also just be that Tiffen wants to price them more competitively. I'll bet they were losing a lot of sales to Glidecam.

Charles Papert · February 9th, 2005, 10:17 PM

I was chatting with the head of Steadicam sales at Tiffen and asked if the new JR was imminent--he was pretty hush-hush, but I'll be seeing Garrett Brown next week so I'll see what I can find out.

John C. Chu · February 10th, 2005, 01:16 PM

I really hope they come out with a successor to the JR.

Not that there is anything "wrong" with the current model--I just like to see a quick-release plate and a slightly better design for the newer camcorders---[ But of course, camcorders comes in all shapes and sizes....]

But to start, it would also help if camera manufacturers put their tripod hole nearer its center of gravity.

One of the superior aspects of the JR--besides the easy micro djustments forward /aft and side by side, is that it folds up nicely and double as a shoulder mount.

If one were an event videographer....you can go from flying mode to shoulder mount quickly.(It also makes transporting the thing easier)

Having the outboard monitor front and center and below the camera is a great design on the JR---if one were to use the camera's built in LCD(on the left side)--there are situations where you can't see the screen.

The disadvantage of the JR-- you have to buy C cells to power that screen.

[That new Sony FX-1 with the LCD on top and centered would probably match up really nicely with ANY stabilizer.]

And the best thing of the JR? A superior training video starring Garrett Brown--the inventor/father himself-- showing you how to set up and use it.

It's inspirational and he is funny to watch and listen to.
(Charles, is he a nice as guy in person as in the video?) Check out the DVD of the first "Rocky"...Garrett Brown participates in the commentary track.

And lastly:

Here is another observation about flying the JR...

If one get it just right...and that thing is working correctly. The operator gets into a "Zen-like" zone with it...and it is a great feeling when one is effortlessly dancing and moving around things with it---You become one with that camera!

It's corny--but its true.

Filip Kovcin · February 10th, 2005, 01:25 PM

it's always like that. you want something, you are buying something and finally when you buy it - price drops!

any rumours about new model?

filip

Charles Papert · February 10th, 2005, 06:37 PM

John:

GB is one of my favorite people on earth--an incredible mind, charming and witty and I'm delighted to have gotten the opportunity to get to know him over the years.

Filip Kovcin · February 10th, 2005, 07:23 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Charles Papert : but I'll be seeing Garrett Brown next week so I'll see what I can find out. -->>>

Charles,

IF you can, please say hello to mr Garrett Brown - from Poland. I was priviledged to talk with him (together with Irena Gruca from polish edition of german's KAMERAMAN - "film&tv kamera") last september on IBC.

please if i may ask you - just say to him that interview with him was printed in last number of magazine, and that Irena will send him a LAST copy. every single copy was sold - for the first time!

thank you,

filip

p.s.

i talked to mr Brown just once, and i was charmed with his approach, knowledge and modesty.
he IS LEGEND!

Yuli Krudo · February 11th, 2005, 03:28 PM

Here is the man

www.global-dvc.org/html/Garrit_and_Jan.jpg

Charles Papert · February 11th, 2005, 11:03 PM

Spend some time at garrettcam.com, lots of great stuff to see! My personal favorite? Molecam...

John C. Chu · February 12th, 2005, 07:06 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Charles Papert : Spend some time at garrettcam.com, lots of great stuff to see! My personal favorite? Molecam... -->>>

Hey Charles,

I know you do your own short films and stuff(besides being a professional Steadicam OP)and with your contacts and knowledge in the creative circles---I have a thought/idea for you....

Documentaries are in vogue nowadays...Have you ever considered making a documentary on Garrett Brown himself?

Not a doc for just technical/film people...but one that appeals to the masses.

Of course, it should have some film clips--Rocky, The Shining etc..

Garrett is interesting...there is really a story there on how this device came to be...how he had to work and figure this device out...and how the Steadicam basically revolutionalized how things are shot..and the language of film.

You can also feature a steadicam school, a young new operator learning the ropes(weight training work in the gym)...

Philosophies..why a moving shot looks better..

And how about this...one sequence will be a "walking" interview with Garrett himself as he is operating a steadicam. You'll both be photographing each other on steadicams.

It will be two steadicam shot....and the sequence cuts back and forth between each other. You ask a question--he answers etc.

I can see how interesting that sequence would be--a "dueling" steadicam sequence--you both climbing stairs etc etc.

And of course the standard getting ready shot/getting dressed shot....ala the first "Batman", " Rambo:First Blood Part 2."

This could be really funny--as the viewer is teased as this things are mounted one piece at a time until the final full reveal of the steadicam operator who looks menancing in full gear.

Anyway....I think you should really consider it!

February 9th, 2005, 03:42 PM	#1
Tony Hall Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: springfield, OH Posts: 344	Steadicam JR price drop Just looking at B&H and noticed that Steadicam JRs are selling for way less than they were a couple of weeks ago. Does this mean that an updated version is coming soon? __________________ Tony "Good taste is the enemy of creativity" - Picasso Blog: http://www.tonyhall.name

February 9th, 2005, 03:58 PM	#3
Tony Hall Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: springfield, OH Posts: 344	Yeah, I just bought a Nikon 8400. Three days later, they release their $100 rebate. __________________ Tony "Good taste is the enemy of creativity" - Picasso Blog: http://www.tonyhall.name

February 9th, 2005, 04:06 PM	#4
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Re: Steadicam JR price drop <<<-- Originally posted by Tony Hall : Just looking at B&H and noticed that Steadicam JRs are selling for way less than they were a couple of weeks ago. Does this mean that an updated version is coming soon? -->>> With NAB coming, anything could happen.

February 9th, 2005, 06:11 PM	#6
Tony Hall Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: springfield, OH Posts: 344	I think it was 700 bucks or more. Luckily, I sold mine before the price drop. I wouldn't recommend buying one now though. I'd wait and see if a new model is coming out. __________________ Tony "Good taste is the enemy of creativity" - Picasso Blog: http://www.tonyhall.name

February 9th, 2005, 10:17 PM	#8
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	I was chatting with the head of Steadicam sales at Tiffen and asked if the new JR was imminent--he was pretty hush-hush, but I'll be seeing Garrett Brown next week so I'll see what I can find out. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 9th, 2005, 03:52 PM	#2
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	Just my luck. I bought one about three weeks ago. Grrr!

February 9th, 2005, 04:22 PM	#5
Cliff Hepburn Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 75	What was the price 2 weeks ago?

February 9th, 2005, 09:40 PM	#7
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	It could also just be that Tiffen wants to price them more competitively. I'll bet they were losing a lot of sales to Glidecam.

February 10th, 2005, 01:16 PM	#9
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	I really hope they come out with a successor to the JR. Not that there is anything "wrong" with the current model--I just like to see a quick-release plate and a slightly better design for the newer camcorders---[ But of course, camcorders comes in all shapes and sizes....] But to start, it would also help if camera manufacturers put their tripod hole nearer its center of gravity. One of the superior aspects of the JR--besides the easy micro djustments forward /aft and side by side, is that it folds up nicely and double as a shoulder mount. If one were an event videographer....you can go from flying mode to shoulder mount quickly.(It also makes transporting the thing easier) Having the outboard monitor front and center and below the camera is a great design on the JR---if one were to use the camera's built in LCD(on the left side)--there are situations where you can't see the screen. The disadvantage of the JR-- you have to buy C cells to power that screen. [That new Sony FX-1 with the LCD on top and centered would probably match up really nicely with ANY stabilizer.] And the best thing of the JR? A superior training video starring Garrett Brown--the inventor/father himself-- showing you how to set up and use it. It's inspirational and he is funny to watch and listen to. (Charles, is he a nice as guy in person as in the video?) Check out the DVD of the first "Rocky"...Garrett Brown participates in the commentary track. And lastly: Here is another observation about flying the JR... If one get it just right...and that thing is working correctly. The operator gets into a "Zen-like" zone with it...and it is a great feeling when one is effortlessly dancing and moving around things with it---You become one with that camera! It's corny--but its true.

February 10th, 2005, 01:25 PM	#10
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	price drops it's always like that. you want something, you are buying something and finally when you buy it - price drops! any rumours about new model? filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 10th, 2005, 06:37 PM	#11
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	John: GB is one of my favorite people on earth--an incredible mind, charming and witty and I'm delighted to have gotten the opportunity to get to know him over the years. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 10th, 2005, 07:23 PM	#12
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	<<<-- Originally posted by Charles Papert : but I'll be seeing Garrett Brown next week so I'll see what I can find out. -->>> Charles, IF you can, please say hello to mr Garrett Brown - from Poland. I was priviledged to talk with him (together with Irena Gruca from polish edition of german's KAMERAMAN - "film&tv kamera") last september on IBC. please if i may ask you - just say to him that interview with him was printed in last number of magazine, and that Irena will send him a LAST copy. every single copy was sold - for the first time! thank you, filip p.s. i talked to mr Brown just once, and i was charmed with his approach, knowledge and modesty. he IS LEGEND! __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 11th, 2005, 03:28 PM	#13
Yuli Krudo New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20	Here is the man www.global-dvc.org/html/Garrit_and_Jan.jpg

February 11th, 2005, 11:03 PM	#14
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Spend some time at garrettcam.com, lots of great stuff to see! My personal favorite? Molecam... __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

February 12th, 2005, 07:06 AM	#15
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	<<<-- Originally posted by Charles Papert : Spend some time at garrettcam.com, lots of great stuff to see! My personal favorite? Molecam... -->>> Hey Charles, I know you do your own short films and stuff(besides being a professional Steadicam OP)and with your contacts and knowledge in the creative circles---I have a thought/idea for you.... Documentaries are in vogue nowadays...Have you ever considered making a documentary on Garrett Brown himself? Not a doc for just technical/film people...but one that appeals to the masses. Of course, it should have some film clips--Rocky, The Shining etc.. Garrett is interesting...there is really a story there on how this device came to be...how he had to work and figure this device out...and how the Steadicam basically revolutionalized how things are shot..and the language of film. You can also feature a steadicam school, a young new operator learning the ropes(weight training work in the gym)... Philosophies..why a moving shot looks better.. And how about this...one sequence will be a "walking" interview with Garrett himself as he is operating a steadicam. You'll both be photographing each other on steadicams. It will be two steadicam shot....and the sequence cuts back and forth between each other. You ask a question--he answers etc. I can see how interesting that sequence would be--a "dueling" steadicam sequence--you both climbing stairs etc etc. And of course the standard getting ready shot/getting dressed shot....ala the first "Batman", " Rambo:First Blood Part 2." This could be really funny--as the viewer is teased as this things are mounted one piece at a time until the final full reveal of the steadicam operator who looks menancing in full gear. Anyway....I think you should really consider it!