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Shawn Dooling · April 12th, 2009, 03:00 AM

Is anyone using the GlideCam with their EX3 Camera. I was looking at the V-16 Model and was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the GlideCam product.

Anyone using the V-16 or any other Models with the EX Camera's????

thx

Mitchell Lewis · April 12th, 2009, 06:38 PM

Make sure you get one with an articulated arm and vest. The EX3 is too heavy to use without the arm and vest.

We purchased a Glidecam set up years ago when we purchased our Canon XL-1S (about the same size as an EX3). We cheaped out and bought it without the vest or arm. After about 20 minutes of shooting, I couldn't support the camera anymore because my arm was too tired.

I've thought about a Steadi Cam rig for our new EX3, but we've added a Letus Ultimate to it and Zacuto rods, so it's gotten pretty heavy. I haven't even looked at the price of an appropriate Steadi Cam (or Glidecam) rig, because I knew it would be very high.

Please let us know how it works out with what ever you purchase. A friend told me the Steadicam Flyer LE is the unit to buy for the EX3. I don't know about Glidecam.

Shawn Dooling · April 12th, 2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis

Please let us know how it works out with what ever you purchase. A friend told me the Steadicam Flyer LE is the unit to buy for the EX3. I don't know about Glidecam.

thx mitchell, i'll also look at the steadicam flyer le.

Dean Sensui · April 12th, 2009, 11:00 PM

I use a Glidecam V16 and get good results. I've used it with the Canon XL1s, Panasonic HVX-200 and the Sony EX1.

Some observations: The "pan" bearing seems to be the wrong type for this application. I don't think it is well suited to handle a "thrust" load. Rather it's supposed to carry axial loads. So after a while the bearing seems to bind up. If a thrust bearing were used (cone-type or roller bearing) it would retain its freedom of movement much better.

The vest is OK. But at NAB I tried a Steadicam Flyer that was rated for the same load. I noticed it was a lot more comfortable. When I tried a Glidecam system that same day (and I already had a lot of time with the Glidecam v16 by then), I noticed the same back muscles would start to tighten up. Somehow the Steadicam vest is more comfortable than the Glidecam system. Don't know what it is, but there is a definite difference for me.

Glidecam requires tools to make adjustments in balance. Steadicam doesn't.

I think the Steadicam system has available as an accessory a mount that will let you tilt the camera independently of the sled. This is a much better option than shifting the balance of the sled to get the camera tilted the where you want it.

The Steadicam system is more costly, but over time consider what the difference in cost might be over longevity and flexibility.

The V16 does the job pretty well. But if I had to buy one (I don't own the Glidecam), I'd probably invest in a Steadicam.

April 12th, 2009, 03:00 AM	#1
Shawn Dooling Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St. John's, NL Canada Posts: 79	GlideCam with EX3 Is anyone using the GlideCam with their EX3 Camera. I was looking at the V-16 Model and was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the GlideCam product. Anyone using the V-16 or any other Models with the EX Camera's???? thx

April 12th, 2009, 06:38 PM	#2
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Make sure you get one with an articulated arm and vest. The EX3 is too heavy to use without the arm and vest. We purchased a Glidecam set up years ago when we purchased our Canon XL-1S (about the same size as an EX3). We cheaped out and bought it without the vest or arm. After about 20 minutes of shooting, I couldn't support the camera anymore because my arm was too tired. I've thought about a Steadi Cam rig for our new EX3, but we've added a Letus Ultimate to it and Zacuto rods, so it's gotten pretty heavy. I haven't even looked at the price of an appropriate Steadi Cam (or Glidecam) rig, because I knew it would be very high. Please let us know how it works out with what ever you purchase. A friend told me the Steadicam Flyer LE is the unit to buy for the EX3. I don't know about Glidecam. __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

April 12th, 2009, 11:00 PM	#4
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	I use a Glidecam V16 and get good results. I've used it with the Canon XL1s, Panasonic HVX-200 and the Sony EX1. Some observations: The "pan" bearing seems to be the wrong type for this application. I don't think it is well suited to handle a "thrust" load. Rather it's supposed to carry axial loads. So after a while the bearing seems to bind up. If a thrust bearing were used (cone-type or roller bearing) it would retain its freedom of movement much better. The vest is OK. But at NAB I tried a Steadicam Flyer that was rated for the same load. I noticed it was a lot more comfortable. When I tried a Glidecam system that same day (and I already had a lot of time with the Glidecam v16 by then), I noticed the same back muscles would start to tighten up. Somehow the Steadicam vest is more comfortable than the Glidecam system. Don't know what it is, but there is a definite difference for me. Glidecam requires tools to make adjustments in balance. Steadicam doesn't. I think the Steadicam system has available as an accessory a mount that will let you tilt the camera independently of the sled. This is a much better option than shifting the balance of the sled to get the camera tilted the where you want it. The Steadicam system is more costly, but over time consider what the difference in cost might be over longevity and flexibility. The V16 does the job pretty well. But if I had to buy one (I don't own the Glidecam), I'd probably invest in a Steadicam. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing