Any info on XL1s stabilizers needed at DVinfo.net

J. Cody Lucido · July 1st, 2003, 11:24 AM

I have gone through as many threads as I can find on this site looking for some solid information about getting an affordable stabilizer for my XL1s. I can't seem to find any real answers.

What I am looking for is something comparable to my Steadicam JR (which I use on my Sony TRV-50 and love) without spending thousands of dollars.

I really like the whole gimbal thing, but most gimbal stabilizers are too expensive. I have about $500 to spend.

I can't seem to find any real details that suggest any solution.

I have looked at the following products and would like to know if anybody recommends any of them, or has another suggestion. I am not concerned about weight, as I am use to holding the camera for long periods of time and will deal with the pain later.

1. Steadytracker - http://www.steadytracker.com/

2. Q technologies - http://www.qtechnologies.com/

3. Varizoom Flowpod - http://www.varizoom.com/pages/flowpod.php

I need to purchase something in the next week for a shoot coming up and your help is greatly appreciated. Most of the shots I am trying to get are walking through the woods. If I could only make my Steadicam Jr. work for my heavy camera.

I would be willing to consider custom built units as well.

Dean Sensui · July 1st, 2003, 02:38 PM

Cody...

I know someone who has a steadytracker and recommends it for his XL1.

I'm working with a Glidecam V16 but originally set up the XL1 with a monopod and some dumbell weights for a stabilizer. It worked well enough to get the opening shot for a commercial we were doing.

As for the weight, you'll have to factor in the weight of the camera, the stabilizer and the stabilizer's counterweights. It'll also be held away from your body to allow the whole rig to move freely and holding it in that position can be very tiring. It'll require a combination of strength and endurance to be tolerable for extended periods.

Also adding to the fatigue factor is the need to hold the whole rig steady and move it smoothly. A stabilizer can take out only so much adverse movement so the more stable the support system the better the shots will be.

Dean Sensui
Base Two Productions

J. Cody Lucido · July 1st, 2003, 05:22 PM

Thanks Dean.

I think I am down to choosing between the Glidecam 4000 and the Steadytracker. I love working with my Steadicam Jr. and I think I am swaying towards the 4000 because of the gimble.

If anybody has used the Steadicam Jr. and the 4000, can you tell me if they are similar?

Jeff Donald · July 1st, 2003, 09:14 PM

If you plan on any shots longer than about 30 seconds, I would save my pennies for the Glidecam V-8. Search the V-8 and you 'll find many responses on the suitability of the V-8 over the 4000. Even with the brace, most users can't hold the XL1 and accessories steady for more than 15 to 20 seconds. A body rig is really what is required for longer shots.

J. Cody Lucido · July 3rd, 2003, 10:07 AM

This is a follow up.

I researched as much as I could and have decided that the best deal for my money is:

Glidecam 4000 Pro w/ Arm Brace.

I ordered from my favorite retailer, B&H Photo. Total cost (with 3-5 day shipping) was $560.35.

Thanks for the help guys. I always turn to this forum when I need questions answered. It is an invaluable service.

Cheers.

July 1st, 2003, 11:24 AM	#1
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	Any info on XL1s stabilizers needed I have gone through as many threads as I can find on this site looking for some solid information about getting an affordable stabilizer for my XL1s. I can't seem to find any real answers. What I am looking for is something comparable to my Steadicam JR (which I use on my Sony TRV-50 and love) without spending thousands of dollars. I really like the whole gimbal thing, but most gimbal stabilizers are too expensive. I have about $500 to spend. I can't seem to find any real details that suggest any solution. I have looked at the following products and would like to know if anybody recommends any of them, or has another suggestion. I am not concerned about weight, as I am use to holding the camera for long periods of time and will deal with the pain later. 1. Steadytracker - http://www.steadytracker.com/ 2. Q technologies - http://www.qtechnologies.com/ 3. Varizoom Flowpod - http://www.varizoom.com/pages/flowpod.php I need to purchase something in the next week for a shoot coming up and your help is greatly appreciated. Most of the shots I am trying to get are walking through the woods. If I could only make my Steadicam Jr. work for my heavy camera. I would be willing to consider custom built units as well.

July 1st, 2003, 09:14 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	If you plan on any shots longer than about 30 seconds, I would save my pennies for the Glidecam V-8. Search the V-8 and you 'll find many responses on the suitability of the V-8 over the 4000. Even with the brace, most users can't hold the XL1 and accessories steady for more than 15 to 20 seconds. A body rig is really what is required for longer shots. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 1st, 2003, 02:38 PM	#2
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Cody... I know someone who has a steadytracker and recommends it for his XL1. I'm working with a Glidecam V16 but originally set up the XL1 with a monopod and some dumbell weights for a stabilizer. It worked well enough to get the opening shot for a commercial we were doing. As for the weight, you'll have to factor in the weight of the camera, the stabilizer and the stabilizer's counterweights. It'll also be held away from your body to allow the whole rig to move freely and holding it in that position can be very tiring. It'll require a combination of strength and endurance to be tolerable for extended periods. Also adding to the fatigue factor is the need to hold the whole rig steady and move it smoothly. A stabilizer can take out only so much adverse movement so the more stable the support system the better the shots will be. Dean Sensui Base Two Productions

July 1st, 2003, 05:22 PM	#3
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	Thanks Dean. I think I am down to choosing between the Glidecam 4000 and the Steadytracker. I love working with my Steadicam Jr. and I think I am swaying towards the 4000 because of the gimble. If anybody has used the Steadicam Jr. and the 4000, can you tell me if they are similar?

July 3rd, 2003, 10:07 AM	#5
J. Cody Lucido Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	This is a follow up. I researched as much as I could and have decided that the best deal for my money is: Glidecam 4000 Pro w/ Arm Brace. I ordered from my favorite retailer, B&H Photo. Total cost (with 3-5 day shipping) was $560.35. Thanks for the help guys. I always turn to this forum when I need questions answered. It is an invaluable service. Cheers.