Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? at DVinfo.net

Bruce S. Yarock · September 19th, 2016, 05:51 AM

I'm on a location job and don't have my Doug Jensen book with me.
I was shooting a wedding last night and for space, needed to vary ny cards and lower codec to l25.
Things were working fine , and I was shooting on a particular card, and during break, shut down fs7.
When I showered the camera back on, a message came up saying" media needs to be restored. Out of fear ( or caution), I did not pus the restore option, and hit cancel, planning to deal with it when I got home
The card would not open or play thumbnails.
I read somewhere that Doug's chapter 7 says it's no big deal, just file hous keeping.
Anyone else run into this message, and is it saf to push the "restore media" optio?
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

Noa Put · September 19th, 2016, 06:08 AM

I have had this type of error message on my jvc ls300 while dual recording to 2 different brands and sized SD cards, like you I didn't do anything at that moment and replaced the cards to deal with it at home, there I found out the cards where unreadable untill I put them back in camera, turned the camera on and got the same message again, when I said "yes" to repair the data on the card the camera did what it said it would do and there was my precious data. :)
Eventhough it's a different brand of camera the end result should be the same.

Anthony McErlean · September 19th, 2016, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce S. Yarock

Anyone else run into this message, and is it saf to push the "restore media" optio?
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

One time I got a "Media need to be restored" message as well while using an MxM adaptor.
I did just that and everything turned out OK.

Doug Jensen · September 19th, 2016, 07:24 AM

I agree with the advice you already got.
Any time you see the “Restore Media” message you should definately let the camera do it. Yes, it is just a housekeeping function. If you still have the card, you could try putting it back into the camera and see if it will ask you again. Good luck.

Bruce S. Yarock · September 21st, 2016, 05:54 PM

Thanks , everybody. The card is fine.
I remember something similar, but disastrous, on the fs100, and for that reason, I was scared to push "restore media". So now I know
Bruce Yarock
VIDEO PRODUCTION FORT LAUDERDALE, SOUTH FLORIDA|MIAMI|PALM BEACH AREA

Cliff Totten · September 22nd, 2016, 06:55 AM

If you are at home and the card is readable, you could backup the entire contents of the card first to your hard drive. Then, let the camera do it's normal restore function. This way you could at least retain a copy of the card before the camera altered it.

I "think"....(I dont "know" this)...that the camera does a consistency check with the Sony written meta data and folder structure. I dont "think" it actually does any repair or scan of the media memory blocks or repairs the file allocation table of the media partition.

If anybody with better knowledge could chime in on this, I'd love to know more.

CT

Marcus Durham · September 25th, 2016, 05:02 PM

Not advisable to put a card that you wish to 'restore' into a PC or Mac unless as a last resort. The computer could write files to the card which could potentially interfere with the restore. This is especially true of Macs.

Cliff Totten · September 25th, 2016, 06:34 PM

Hmmm...I agree there could be a risk. In "theory" a simple folder copy process in Windows wont write anything on the source media. You would, of course flip "on" the write block switch on the SD card to hopefully make that media "read-only".

I have done this before in the AVCHD days and had no trouble in-camera restoring broken media links.

Many many years ago when AVCHD first came out, I remember that my Sony camera actually destroyed the media on a card after it did a restore. All the files became unreadable after the process was complete. Even Windows couldnt play them. Jeesh,...was that a Sony Memory Stick?

Anyhoo....Media recovery tricks are always a gamble in some way.

CT

September 19th, 2016, 05:51 AM	#1
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? I'm on a location job and don't have my Doug Jensen book with me. I was shooting a wedding last night and for space, needed to vary ny cards and lower codec to l25. Things were working fine , and I was shooting on a particular card, and during break, shut down fs7. When I showered the camera back on, a message came up saying" media needs to be restored. Out of fear ( or caution), I did not pus the restore option, and hit cancel, planning to deal with it when I got home The card would not open or play thumbnails. I read somewhere that Doug's chapter 7 says it's no big deal, just file hous keeping. Anyone else run into this message, and is it saf to push the "restore media" optio? Thanks Bruce Yarock

September 19th, 2016, 06:08 AM	#2
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? I have had this type of error message on my jvc ls300 while dual recording to 2 different brands and sized SD cards, like you I didn't do anything at that moment and replaced the cards to deal with it at home, there I found out the cards where unreadable untill I put them back in camera, turned the camera on and got the same message again, when I said "yes" to repair the data on the card the camera did what it said it would do and there was my precious data. :) Eventhough it's a different brand of camera the end result should be the same.

September 19th, 2016, 07:24 AM	#4
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,442	Re: Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? I agree with the advice you already got. Any time you see the “Restore Media” message you should definately let the camera do it. Yes, it is just a housekeeping function. If you still have the card, you could try putting it back into the camera and see if it will ask you again. Good luck. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

September 21st, 2016, 05:54 PM	#5
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Re: Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? Thanks , everybody. The card is fine. I remember something similar, but disastrous, on the fs100, and for that reason, I was scared to push "restore media". So now I know Bruce Yarock VIDEO PRODUCTION FORT LAUDERDALE, SOUTH FLORIDA\|MIAMI\|PALM BEACH AREA

September 22nd, 2016, 06:55 AM	#6
Cliff Totten Trustee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197	Re: Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? If you are at home and the card is readable, you could backup the entire contents of the card first to your hard drive. Then, let the camera do it's normal restore function. This way you could at least retain a copy of the card before the camera altered it. I "think"....(I dont "know" this)...that the camera does a consistency check with the Sony written meta data and folder structure. I dont "think" it actually does any repair or scan of the media memory blocks or repairs the file allocation table of the media partition. If anybody with better knowledge could chime in on this, I'd love to know more. CT

September 25th, 2016, 05:02 PM	#7
Marcus Durham Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 693	Re: Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? Not advisable to put a card that you wish to 'restore' into a PC or Mac unless as a last resort. The computer could write files to the card which could potentially interfere with the restore. This is especially true of Macs. __________________ Marcus Durham Media2u, Corporate Video Production For Your Business - http://www.media2u.co.uk

September 25th, 2016, 06:34 PM	#8
Cliff Totten Trustee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197	Re: Card Errors message -media needs to be repaired? Hmmm...I agree there could be a risk. In "theory" a simple folder copy process in Windows wont write anything on the source media. You would, of course flip "on" the write block switch on the SD card to hopefully make that media "read-only". I have done this before in the AVCHD days and had no trouble in-camera restoring broken media links. Many many years ago when AVCHD first came out, I remember that my Sony camera actually destroyed the media on a card after it did a restore. All the files became unreadable after the process was complete. Even Windows couldnt play them. Jeesh,...was that a Sony Memory Stick? Anyhoo....Media recovery tricks are always a gamble in some way. CT