Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5

Jeremy Cole · February 15th, 2016, 07:56 AM

Nigel,

They make two kinds of adapters for the Nikon and neither of them offer electronic integration. I own both. There is not a third smart adapter for the Nikon mount. I just went on their website and saw that they have text with the Nikon adapter that does not go with it. If you examine the photos you will see that there are NO electronic contacts on the Nikon mounts. Go and demo one and you will see. Never found auto focus useful anyway with video cameras.

Nigel Davey · February 15th, 2016, 09:40 AM

Thanks Jeremy. Their website certainly gives the wrong impression. So much so retailers like WEX are calling this adapter 'smart' when obviously it isn't.

Marcus Durham · February 15th, 2016, 01:05 PM

My adaptor arrived today. Not tried it yet but the machining and quality appear far above the previous adaptor I used.

Not bothered about lack of autofocus and aperture control from the camera. I always shoot fully manual so can't see the benefit unless you had the thing on a drone or something. Last thing I want is the camera making decisions for me.

Nigel Davey · February 16th, 2016, 10:57 AM

My FS5 has turned up and I'm worried about attaching my Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 mk1 to it by any sort of adapater. This 70-200 weighs circa 1.5kg and waiving that sort of bulk around on the end of an adapter is asking for trouble.

I realise the metabones (and others) have tripod mounts buit in to the collar, but that's still a lot of weight on either side of the adapter and of no use when going hand held.

The only thing I can think of is folks are holding the 70-200 in one hand and the FS5 in the other. But that will make swapping between focussing and zooming very hard to do with your lens supporting hand. So has anyone got another solution, eg using additional grip/bars supporting both underneath?

Marcus Durham · February 16th, 2016, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Davey

My FS5 has turned up and I'm worried about attaching my Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 mk1 to it by any sort of adapater. This 70-200 weighs circa 1.5kg and waiving that sort of bulk around on the end of an adapter is asking for trouble.

I've been trying, and failing, to find any suggestion from Sony as to what the maximum unsupported weight should be for the FS5. But 1.5KG sounds like it would make the camera awfully front heavy.

You might need to look into a set of rails/support system. Been looking into it myself and it looks like a minefield!

Nigel Davey · February 16th, 2016, 01:31 PM

Thanks Marcus. If you do find any appropriate rails, please drop me a line? I'll also investigate possible solutions.

Nigel Davey · February 17th, 2016, 02:38 PM

Would something like this:

Gemtune Telephoto lens support for long big lens SUNWAYFOTO | eBay

or this work?

Telephoto Lens Support Long-focus Holder & 250mm Quick Release Plate For Tripod | eBay

Nigel Davey · February 17th, 2016, 03:01 PM

This mght also work: Telephoto Lens Bracket Long Focus Support 20cm Quick Release Plate for Arca swiss Tripod Ball Head Clamp Canon Nikon Sony Camera-in Tripod Monopods from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

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Nigel Davey · February 18th, 2016, 05:39 PM

Will the Metabones speed booster work with Nikon DX (APS-C) lenses on a FS5? I realise it works with FX lenses but what about something like the Nikor 35mm f1.8 DX lens or even the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX ii?

Doug Jensen · February 18th, 2016, 06:06 PM

A DX lens is not a full frame lens, therefore it won't work with a speedbooster. However, you could use a non-speedbooster adapter with a DX lens (or FX lens) but then you won't get the benefits of wider angle and faster aperture. Do you really need a speedbooster with a f/1.8 lens anyway?

Nigel Davey · February 19th, 2016, 03:07 AM

I shoot in a lot of dimly lit churches so the extra stop, even on a f1.8, would be very welcome. However I was more interested in the Tokina 11-16mmm f2.8 though since I also shoot properties. Thus the 0.7 crop and extra stop would be huge benefit in that scenario. But I suspect there could be strong vignetting and distortion.

Dave Sperling · February 19th, 2016, 08:06 AM

Tokina 11-16 --
Not exactly an answer to your question, but may help provide an answer...

I don't have a speed booster, but I tried mounting my 11-16 onto my A7s in full frame mode.
When in movie mode (16:9 sensor area) vignetting starts just above 14mm on the lens,
In stills mode (full frame) vignetting starts at 15mm

So...
This presumably means that if you are really interested in that extra stop of exposure, you should be able to use a speedbooster, shoot at the 'long' end of the 11-16, end up with the equivalent of a usable 10.2 - 11.5 zoom at approx f/2
Just don't expect to be able to zoom out any further!

Nigel Davey · February 19th, 2016, 11:51 AM

Thanks Dave. I decided to order the Speed booster since some of my Nikon lenses are FX, so there is still some value in it. The extra stop on the DX Tokina would be nice, particularly since I don't like to run it at f2.8 where it is noticeably softer.

February 15th, 2016, 07:56 AM	#16
Jeremy Cole Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA Posts: 84	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Nigel, They make two kinds of adapters for the Nikon and neither of them offer electronic integration. I own both. There is not a third smart adapter for the Nikon mount. I just went on their website and saw that they have text with the Nikon adapter that does not go with it. If you examine the photos you will see that there are NO electronic contacts on the Nikon mounts. Go and demo one and you will see. Never found auto focus useful anyway with video cameras. __________________ Regards, Jeremy

February 15th, 2016, 09:40 AM	#17
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Thanks Jeremy. Their website certainly gives the wrong impression. So much so retailers like WEX are calling this adapter 'smart' when obviously it isn't.

February 15th, 2016, 01:05 PM	#18
Marcus Durham Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 693	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 My adaptor arrived today. Not tried it yet but the machining and quality appear far above the previous adaptor I used. Not bothered about lack of autofocus and aperture control from the camera. I always shoot fully manual so can't see the benefit unless you had the thing on a drone or something. Last thing I want is the camera making decisions for me. __________________ Marcus Durham Media2u, Corporate Video Production For Your Business - http://www.media2u.co.uk

February 16th, 2016, 10:57 AM	#19
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 My FS5 has turned up and I'm worried about attaching my Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 mk1 to it by any sort of adapater. This 70-200 weighs circa 1.5kg and waiving that sort of bulk around on the end of an adapter is asking for trouble. I realise the metabones (and others) have tripod mounts buit in to the collar, but that's still a lot of weight on either side of the adapter and of no use when going hand held. The only thing I can think of is folks are holding the 70-200 in one hand and the FS5 in the other. But that will make swapping between focussing and zooming very hard to do with your lens supporting hand. So has anyone got another solution, eg using additional grip/bars supporting both underneath?

February 16th, 2016, 01:31 PM	#21
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Thanks Marcus. If you do find any appropriate rails, please drop me a line? I'll also investigate possible solutions.

February 17th, 2016, 02:38 PM	#22
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Would something like this: Gemtune Telephoto lens support for long big lens SUNWAYFOTO \| eBay or this work? Telephoto Lens Support Long-focus Holder & 250mm Quick Release Plate For Tripod \| eBay

February 17th, 2016, 03:01 PM	#23
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 This mght also work: Telephoto Lens Bracket Long Focus Support 20cm Quick Release Plate for Arca swiss Tripod Ball Head Clamp Canon Nikon Sony Camera-in Tripod Monopods from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com \| Alibaba Group Or this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-O...08.4.45.ZbdowE

February 18th, 2016, 05:39 PM	#24
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Will the Metabones speed booster work with Nikon DX (APS-C) lenses on a FS5? I realise it works with FX lenses but what about something like the Nikor 35mm f1.8 DX lens or even the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX ii?

February 18th, 2016, 06:06 PM	#25
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 A DX lens is not a full frame lens, therefore it won't work with a speedbooster. However, you could use a non-speedbooster adapter with a DX lens (or FX lens) but then you won't get the benefits of wider angle and faster aperture. Do you really need a speedbooster with a f/1.8 lens anyway? __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

February 19th, 2016, 03:07 AM	#26
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 I shoot in a lot of dimly lit churches so the extra stop, even on a f1.8, would be very welcome. However I was more interested in the Tokina 11-16mmm f2.8 though since I also shoot properties. Thus the 0.7 crop and extra stop would be huge benefit in that scenario. But I suspect there could be strong vignetting and distortion.

February 19th, 2016, 08:06 AM	#27
Dave Sperling Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tinton Falls, NJ Posts: 780	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Tokina 11-16 -- Not exactly an answer to your question, but may help provide an answer... I don't have a speed booster, but I tried mounting my 11-16 onto my A7s in full frame mode. When in movie mode (16:9 sensor area) vignetting starts just above 14mm on the lens, In stills mode (full frame) vignetting starts at 15mm So... This presumably means that if you are really interested in that extra stop of exposure, you should be able to use a speedbooster, shoot at the 'long' end of the 11-16, end up with the equivalent of a usable 10.2 - 11.5 zoom at approx f/2 Just don't expect to be able to zoom out any further!

February 19th, 2016, 11:51 AM	#28
Nigel Davey Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 241	Re: Confused over Nikon adapters for FS5 Thanks Dave. I decided to order the Speed booster since some of my Nikon lenses are FX, so there is still some value in it. The extra stop on the DX Tokina would be nice, particularly since I don't like to run it at f2.8 where it is noticeably softer.