New Sony PXW-FS5

[Andy Wilkinson]

Terrible footage - we all know this cam will be capable of far greater things than this...

[Mike Watson]

Oh pshaw. We already know the pretty pictures will be beautiful. It's important to see what it'll look like with crappy lighting while hunting for focus. :-)

I will say that it seems to confirm what I already thought, which is that the 18-105 kit lens in 4K will leave something to be desired.

[Mike Watson]

This will be my first WiFi camera. For those of you who have had something similar before... my hope is that I'll be able to hand an android tablet to the client, who can watch everything I'm shooting. From what I can tell, the app you run also has camera controls on it. Is there a way to disable those, so my bumbling client doesn't stop recording an interview in the middle?

[Jeroen Wolf]

I'm going to a workshop/presentation on the FS5 on friday, hosted by Alistair Chapman.

Any questions you'd like to be answered?

[Andy Wilkinson]

Yes please!

Despite at least two separate reports that the FS5 has a Wave Form Monitor, there have been other reports that there is no WFM - including by Alister (note the spelling) on his blog when he was reviewing an early pre-production FS5.

I use the WFM option on my C100 and/or Ninja Blade all the time and sure would miss it!

So will the production versions of the PXW-FS5 have a WFM...or not?

[Arvid Kraght]

why is this one not posted on YouTube from sony
VideON | First Look At What The PXW-FS5K Can Do | XDCAM HD Products

Image looks pretty non video-like, same as the fs700, but i see some noice in the blacks...

[David Heath]

Originally Posted by Andy Wilkinson

Despite at least two separate reports that the FS5 has a Wave Form Monitor, there have been other reports that there is no WFM - including by Alister (note the spelling) on his blog when he was reviewing an early pre-production FS5.

Andy, I think I may have been guilty of misleading you on that one, as with hindsight I think I may have seen a histogram display rather than waveform. To be honest, I didn't pay it too much attention at the time (I normally rely on a dual zebra mode so wasn't very interested) - I just remembered a display being present. (To be honest I found it an irritation - blocking out some of the image - which is why I don't normally use a histogram or w/f display in the viewfinder.)

My apologies if I've created confusion.

What I would say is that at the time I was looking at it's low light behaviour in a very dark part of the room and (even with the kit lens, f4) although it was only on the LCD screen it seemed pretty stunning. I'd be interested to try it again in comparison with another camera and quality monitoring. It made me wonder just what it would be like with a fast prime...... :-)

[David Banner]

I know it cannot do 4K 60P internally... :)

What are the high frame rates that it can do continuous? And in burst? And what is the burst duration?

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Originally Posted by David Banner

I know it cannot do 4K 60P internally... :)What are the high frame rates that it can do continuous? And in burst? And what is the burst duration?

Hi David, the frame rates are:
continuos 60fps in HD only, 120fps using full sensor full HD for 16 seconds, 240fps using full sensor full HD for 8 seconds.

[David Banner]

Thank you, Danilo Del Tufo. Very helpful :)

[Andy Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by David Heath

Andy, I think I may have been guilty of misleading you on that one, as with hindsight I think I may have seen a histogram display rather than waveform. To be honest, I didn't pay it too much attention at the time (I normally rely on a dual zebra mode so wasn't very interested) - I just remembered a display being present. (To be honest I found it an irritation - blocking out some of the image - which is why I don't normally use a histogram or w/f display in the viewfinder.)

My apologies if I've created confusion.

What I would say is that at the time I was looking at it's low light behaviour in a very dark part of the room and (even with the kit lens, f4) although it was only on the LCD screen it seemed pretty stunning. I'd be interested to try it again in comparison with another camera and quality monitoring. It made me wonder just what it would be like with a fast prime...... :-)

No worries David. I will put it on my list to badger Sony about as a feature for inclusion in that future firmware upgrade (DCI, 12-bit Raw out, etc.).

[Nate Haustein]

Get some popcorn and say goodbye to your family. This one's a deep dive.

FS5 Livestream | VOCAS

[Mike Watson]

Two and a half hours? I'll wait for the Reader's Digest version.

[Jeroen Wolf]

Originally Posted by Mike Watson

Two and a half hours? I'll wait for the Reader's Digest version.

That would be mine. No waveform monitor.

[Jeroen Wolf]

Very informative morning with Alister Chapman.

One very 'enlightening' example: I always thought a great dynamic range was good for low light shooting. It's actually the opposite. Shoot rec 709 when in low light! But for a high contrast low light scene (like a city street at night) shoot cinegamma for nice highlight rolloff. For scenes with a great dynamic range, shoot s-log.

I also understand you should probably not buy this camera if you want to do shoot a lot of S-Log. It is hard to work with s-log on the FS5 because you don't have the proper assistance tools to help judge what you're doing. (like a LUT-emulator for the monitor, for instance) The FS7 is much better equipped for that.

This is my simple understanding of a very elaborate and scientific explanation of the underlying principles of different gamma profiles by Alister. Correct me if I misunderstood!

My personal conclusion: I like this camera even more than before. Cinegamma and rec 709 will fulfill all my needs as a documentary maker, events filmer and whatever other projects come my way. (I don't do drama)

Watch the livestream- it will tell you a lot more- and better.