Editing FS7 footage in Premiere at DVinfo.net

Bruce S. Yarock · February 13th, 2015, 10:35 AM

I've done a couple of jobs so far for clients with my new FS7, giving them the files after shoot. We haven't
captured any of it yet, but will have to do so with footage I'll be shooting this week end. In the mean time, I shot some stuff for a pbs station with both the FS100 and Fs7, and gave them the footage. No problem bringing fs100 files right into premiere, but they can't do anything with the fs7 clips.
I shot in custom, 30fps, 35 mbs.
I see on Doug Jensen's tutorial that Sony has a couple of content management programs for dealing with fs7 footage. Also did a google search and found reccomendations for a utility program called "Borosoft".
I need to come up with a solution ASAP so that the station can edit the files. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

Jack Zhang · February 13th, 2015, 11:46 AM

Is it XAVC-L 1080p? Convert it to XDCAM HD422 in Catalyst. (ProRes has a gamma shift in Catalyst) In future, use XAVC-I 1080p for now since none of the NLEs support XAVC-L.

Bruce S. Yarock · February 13th, 2015, 12:01 PM

Thanks, Jack
We shot it in L, not I. We'll try your suggestion.
Do you know off hand how many minutes I can get on a 64 gig card if I'm shooting in L as opposed to I?
I have a concert this week end and there are two performances, each two hours long. I have 2 x 64 gig cards so far.
Bruce Yarock

Bruce S. Yarock · February 13th, 2015, 12:03 PM

What I meant to ask was if I shoot in I instead of L, how many minutes can I get on the 64 gig card?

Jack Zhang · February 13th, 2015, 12:34 PM

At 30p, it's 100Mbps vs what you were shooting at 35mbps. You get 60mins for a 64GB card vs 220mins at 35mbps.

Bruce S. Yarock · February 13th, 2015, 03:22 PM

Jack
Would you have a few minutes to talk on the phone? We've tried several options and still can't get clips playing correctly.
If you email your number or call me, I'll call back.
Thanks
Bruce Yarock
Yarock@aol.com
954-431-0940 h
954-610-4325 cell

Doug Jensen · February 13th, 2015, 07:48 PM

If they are using the latest version of Premiere they should not need any 3rd party software, transcoding to another format, or any of Sony's utilities. Just transfer the XDROOT folder to a HDD and then import normally into Premiere. Simple!

If they are not using the latest version of Premiere, tell them to upgrade.

http://www.vortexmedia.com/DVD_FS7.html

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Bruce S. Yarock · February 14th, 2015, 05:45 AM

Doug,
We spent the whole day trying with premiere CS6, and couldn't get it to work. We do have the latest version of CS6. later In the day I spoke to a local friend who has been shooting with the FS7, and successfully editing in Premiere. He told me that they're using Premiere CC, so I assume that's what we need. They are using CC on Mac, while we're on PC, but that shouldn't matter, right?
If that's what we need, we'll get the cloud version of CC today.
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

Doug Jensen · February 14th, 2015, 09:56 AM

Saying that someone has the latest version of Premiere 6 is like saying they have all the updates for Windows 95. :-)
That software is at least two years out of date and will never handle the latest codecs that have only been around for a few months.
I use CC on a Mac and I can edit natively with every codec the FS7 puts out, so have them upgrade. It's well worth whatever Adobe charges for the subscription.

Doug Jensen's Sony PXW-FS7 Master Class

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Bruce S. Yarock · February 16th, 2015, 08:15 PM

We got CC and everything is working fine.
Finally.
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

Jerry Davis · February 19th, 2015, 08:21 AM

so what about fcp? i have version 7.0.3

Doug Jensen · February 19th, 2015, 10:37 AM

Yes, you should upgrade to FCPX or (even better) Premiere CC.

Jerry Davis · February 19th, 2015, 08:16 PM

thanks doug

David Dixon · February 20th, 2015, 09:31 AM

For FCP7 - Catalyst Browse, or, as of last week, EditReady (a $49 app from divergentmedia.com, the ClipWrap company) will transcode XAVC-L to ProRes.

FCPX requires the same workflow for now, but Sony is on record that native import will be enabled soon either via a plugin from Sony or an FCPX update.

Doug Jensen · February 20th, 2015, 10:21 AM

Just be aware that transcoding takes up time and the ProRes files will be 4-6x larger than the originals.

February 13th, 2015, 10:35 AM	#1
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Editing FS7 footage in Premiere I've done a couple of jobs so far for clients with my new FS7, giving them the files after shoot. We haven't captured any of it yet, but will have to do so with footage I'll be shooting this week end. In the mean time, I shot some stuff for a pbs station with both the FS100 and Fs7, and gave them the footage. No problem bringing fs100 files right into premiere, but they can't do anything with the fs7 clips. I shot in custom, 30fps, 35 mbs. I see on Doug Jensen's tutorial that Sony has a couple of content management programs for dealing with fs7 footage. Also did a google search and found reccomendations for a utility program called "Borosoft". I need to come up with a solution ASAP so that the station can edit the files. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Bruce Yarock Last edited by Bruce S. Yarock; February 13th, 2015 at 10:36 AM. Reason: Spelling

February 13th, 2015, 11:46 AM	#2
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Is it XAVC-L 1080p? Convert it to XDCAM HD422 in Catalyst. (ProRes has a gamma shift in Catalyst) In future, use XAVC-I 1080p for now since none of the NLEs support XAVC-L.

February 13th, 2015, 12:01 PM	#3
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Thanks, Jack We shot it in L, not I. We'll try your suggestion. Do you know off hand how many minutes I can get on a 64 gig card if I'm shooting in L as opposed to I? I have a concert this week end and there are two performances, each two hours long. I have 2 x 64 gig cards so far. Bruce Yarock

February 13th, 2015, 12:03 PM	#4
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere What I meant to ask was if I shoot in I instead of L, how many minutes can I get on the 64 gig card?

February 13th, 2015, 12:34 PM	#5
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere At 30p, it's 100Mbps vs what you were shooting at 35mbps. You get 60mins for a 64GB card vs 220mins at 35mbps.

February 13th, 2015, 03:22 PM	#6
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Jack Would you have a few minutes to talk on the phone? We've tried several options and still can't get clips playing correctly. If you email your number or call me, I'll call back. Thanks Bruce Yarock Yarock@aol.com 954-431-0940 h 954-610-4325 cell

February 13th, 2015, 07:48 PM	#7
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere If they are using the latest version of Premiere they should not need any 3rd party software, transcoding to another format, or any of Sony's utilities. Just transfer the XDROOT folder to a HDD and then import normally into Premiere. Simple! If they are not using the latest version of Premiere, tell them to upgrade. http://www.vortexmedia.com/DVD_FS7.html . __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

February 14th, 2015, 05:45 AM	#8
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Doug, We spent the whole day trying with premiere CS6, and couldn't get it to work. We do have the latest version of CS6. later In the day I spoke to a local friend who has been shooting with the FS7, and successfully editing in Premiere. He told me that they're using Premiere CC, so I assume that's what we need. They are using CC on Mac, while we're on PC, but that shouldn't matter, right? If that's what we need, we'll get the cloud version of CC today. Thanks Bruce Yarock

February 14th, 2015, 09:56 AM	#9
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Saying that someone has the latest version of Premiere 6 is like saying they have all the updates for Windows 95. :-) That software is at least two years out of date and will never handle the latest codecs that have only been around for a few months. I use CC on a Mac and I can edit natively with every codec the FS7 puts out, so have them upgrade. It's well worth whatever Adobe charges for the subscription. Doug Jensen's Sony PXW-FS7 Master Class . __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

February 16th, 2015, 08:15 PM	#10
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere We got CC and everything is working fine. Finally. Thanks Bruce Yarock

February 19th, 2015, 08:21 AM	#11
Jerry Davis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 46	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere so what about fcp? i have version 7.0.3

February 19th, 2015, 10:37 AM	#12
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Yes, you should upgrade to FCPX or (even better) Premiere CC. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

February 19th, 2015, 08:16 PM	#13
Jerry Davis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 46	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere thanks doug

February 20th, 2015, 09:31 AM	#14
David Dixon Major Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 495	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere For FCP7 - Catalyst Browse, or, as of last week, EditReady (a $49 app from divergentmedia.com, the ClipWrap company) will transcode XAVC-L to ProRes. FCPX requires the same workflow for now, but Sony is on record that native import will be enabled soon either via a plugin from Sony or an FCPX update.

February 20th, 2015, 10:21 AM	#15
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Editing FS7 footage in Premiere Just be aware that transcoding takes up time and the ProRes files will be 4-6x larger than the originals. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools