New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 at DVinfo.net

Ryan Hollings · January 13th, 2012, 09:15 AM

Just received an email from my Sony rep this morning;

CBKMH01 PMW-F3 eyepiece:

Steve Kimmel · January 13th, 2012, 09:47 AM

Did the rep give you info on availability? price?

Thanks.

Ryan Hollings · January 13th, 2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kimmel

Did the rep give you info on availability? price?

Thanks.

He said availible now, $600.00cdn.

Ned Soltz · January 13th, 2012, 10:15 AM

So with CDN $ close to par, US price should be just about the same.

I think it's a bit pricey considering it is very much the same loupe as the EX3 and FS100.

Ryan Hollings · January 13th, 2012, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ned Soltz

So with CDN $ close to par, US price should be just about the same.

I think it's a bit pricey considering it is very much the same loupe as the EX3 and FS100.

I am with you on that. You could almost get an HDMI EVF for that price

Douglas Villalba · January 13th, 2012, 05:26 PM

It totally useless and too expensive for what it does.

Doug Jensen · January 13th, 2012, 05:49 PM

I wouldn't say it is useless. I used the prototype at NAB and found it worked very well. It is basically the same thing as the EX3's viewfinder, and in my opinion, that feature alone is worth the cost difference between and EX1R and EX3. If I hadn't already bought a Zacuto EVF I'd consider getting one. But then again, I wonder if the bracket would interfere with my Berkey plate?

I do agree that it is overpriced. Should be about $200-$300.

Ron Aerts · January 14th, 2012, 12:50 AM

One should consider 2 facts:
- The eyepieces will be way too far back on a camrig, which makes the rig front heavy. You wouldn't even last 5 minutes or collapse through the weight of counterweights
- It will be fatique on the joint for the cams viewfinder screen. There will be a lot of weight and movements and I wonder if the joint/hinge will survive this.

But it will be much, much better then te F3 viewfinder, so for those always working in the sun with tripods it should be valueable. but 600 dollars..?..

Doug Jensen · January 14th, 2012, 05:58 AM

If you take a closer look at the pitures, the loupe is held in place over the LCD by an adjustable bracket that attaches to the top of the camera and takes the weight off. So, unlike a Hoodman loupe, this one should place no extra strain on the LCD if you use it properly.

Ryan Hollings · January 14th, 2012, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Jensen

If you take a closer look at the pitures, the loupe is held in place over the LCD by an adjustable bracket that attaches to the top of the camera and takes the weight off. So, unlike a Hoodman loupe, this one should place no extra strain on the LCD if you use it properly.

Does the bracket go over the top, or does it go over the front?

It has a bit of a curve, so to me, it looks like it mounts right above the lens mount, where there are to screws.. I could be wrong though.

Doug Jensen · January 15th, 2012, 08:46 PM

How could it mount without screws? Yes, it mounts to the top.
The curve allows you to adjust the angle of the LCD.

Alister Chapman · January 16th, 2012, 01:53 AM

I think this loupe would be nice for those situations where you don't want any extra kit added to the camera. For example I'm off up to the Arctic at the end of the week and I don't want a whole bunch of extra stuff hanging off the camera with the need to power any extra EVF's etc.

It's not ideal, but a useful option. I'm going to continue to use my Cineroid EVF until I get one of the new Alphatron/TVLogic EVF's, but I could see this being useful for some applications.

Now..... if they could reverse engineer 50Mb/s 4:2:2 internally or better still 10bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4. I dream of the F5!

Duke Marsh · January 17th, 2012, 08:59 AM

Since the camera can do 35Mbps at 30p, it could do 40Mbps at 24p with just a software update as is.

Given engineering safety margins I would even bet it could do 50Mbps with a change in firmware right now. The SxS card is certainly capable of it. (I'm constantly amazed at the extra data rates from Magic Lantern for Canon and Tombstone for GH2.) Don't hold your breath though.

It will be the F9 before the view finder is in the right place and higher resolution, the data rate is up to 200Mbs, 4.2.2 etc. Think of it this way. Remove the design of the $500 of recording circuits in the F3 and pop in the design of the Samurai guts which probably wholesale for <$1k. Only $500 more to have your ideal camera. 1080p will be obsolete by then.

I'd actually be upset if they come out with an F5 right now. I have to get my money out of the F3, recorder, etc. Besides, they aren't going to give us everything we want in one jump if they can get us to buy five cameras.

January 13th, 2012, 09:15 AM	#1
Ryan Hollings Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 118	New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 Just received an email from my Sony rep this morning; CBKMH01 PMW-F3 eyepiece:

January 13th, 2012, 09:47 AM	#2
Steve Kimmel Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 256	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 Did the rep give you info on availability? price? Thanks.

January 13th, 2012, 10:15 AM	#4
Ned Soltz Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 659	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 So with CDN $ close to par, US price should be just about the same. I think it's a bit pricey considering it is very much the same loupe as the EX3 and FS100.

January 13th, 2012, 05:26 PM	#6
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 It totally useless and too expensive for what it does. __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

January 13th, 2012, 05:49 PM	#7
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 I wouldn't say it is useless. I used the prototype at NAB and found it worked very well. It is basically the same thing as the EX3's viewfinder, and in my opinion, that feature alone is worth the cost difference between and EX1R and EX3. If I hadn't already bought a Zacuto EVF I'd consider getting one. But then again, I wonder if the bracket would interfere with my Berkey plate? I do agree that it is overpriced. Should be about $200-$300. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

January 14th, 2012, 12:50 AM	#8
Ron Aerts Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Drachten, Netherlands Posts: 179	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 One should consider 2 facts: - The eyepieces will be way too far back on a camrig, which makes the rig front heavy. You wouldn't even last 5 minutes or collapse through the weight of counterweights - It will be fatique on the joint for the cams viewfinder screen. There will be a lot of weight and movements and I wonder if the joint/hinge will survive this. But it will be much, much better then te F3 viewfinder, so for those always working in the sun with tripods it should be valueable. but 600 dollars..?..

January 14th, 2012, 05:58 AM	#9
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 If you take a closer look at the pitures, the loupe is held in place over the LCD by an adjustable bracket that attaches to the top of the camera and takes the weight off. So, unlike a Hoodman loupe, this one should place no extra strain on the LCD if you use it properly. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

January 15th, 2012, 08:46 PM	#11
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 How could it mount without screws? Yes, it mounts to the top. The curve allows you to adjust the angle of the LCD. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

January 16th, 2012, 01:53 AM	#12
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 I think this loupe would be nice for those situations where you don't want any extra kit added to the camera. For example I'm off up to the Arctic at the end of the week and I don't want a whole bunch of extra stuff hanging off the camera with the need to power any extra EVF's etc. It's not ideal, but a useful option. I'm going to continue to use my Cineroid EVF until I get one of the new Alphatron/TVLogic EVF's, but I could see this being useful for some applications. Now..... if they could reverse engineer 50Mb/s 4:2:2 internally or better still 10bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4. I dream of the F5! __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

January 17th, 2012, 08:59 AM	#13
Duke Marsh Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: OC, CA Posts: 65	Re: New Sony Eyepiece Loupe CBKMH01 Since the camera can do 35Mbps at 30p, it could do 40Mbps at 24p with just a software update as is. Given engineering safety margins I would even bet it could do 50Mbps with a change in firmware right now. The SxS card is certainly capable of it. (I'm constantly amazed at the extra data rates from Magic Lantern for Canon and Tombstone for GH2.) Don't hold your breath though. It will be the F9 before the view finder is in the right place and higher resolution, the data rate is up to 200Mbs, 4.2.2 etc. Think of it this way. Remove the design of the $500 of recording circuits in the F3 and pop in the design of the Samurai guts which probably wholesale for <$1k. Only $500 more to have your ideal camera. 1080p will be obsolete by then. I'd actually be upset if they come out with an F5 right now. I have to get my money out of the F3, recorder, etc. Besides, they aren't going to give us everything we want in one jump if they can get us to buy five cameras.