F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions at DVinfo.net

Drazen Stader · September 9th, 2011, 07:16 AM

Hi,

there seems to be some confusion in terms of what is needed to shoot 1080 60p on a sony f3...and I have some questions on that matter

- which current exisying external recorders support 1080 60p
- what needs to be set in the menus...dual link sdi enabled?
- what formats can be recorded on those external recorders?
- is it possible to record 1080 60p 10bit to aja ki pro mini?
does the blackmagic hyperdeck enable to shoot 1080 60p 10bit?
- is it possible to record 1080 60p over single sdi (A) and not use at all the port B?

yesterday we were testing the dual link from sony f3 to the cinedeck extreme and we could only get 1080 60p in cineform codec...when we tried to record the 1080 60p in pro res we couldn't do it...what's the catch? and what was your experience, what codec and what recorder was used in getting 1080 60p 10bit out from the sony f3?

Thanks for the input

Chris Medico · September 10th, 2011, 05:55 PM

Here is the info for the camera settings:

When “Dual-Link & Gamma Select” is set to “1.5G YPbPr422 & Video”

OTHERS menu “System” HD SDI output format:
NTSC Area/
NTSC(J) Area

Country Format:
HQ 1920/59.94i

Video is output as follows

SDI A connector:
1920 × 1080/59.94P@1.5G

SDI B connector:
1920 × 1080/59.94P@1.5G

Alister Chapman · September 15th, 2011, 12:49 PM

The Sony SR-R1 will do 1080p60 4:2:2. The soon to be released Convergent design Gemini has it as a future planned upgrade.

Andrew Stone · September 17th, 2011, 03:09 PM

Alister this is the first I have heard of the Gemini not producing 1080p60 4:2:2 out of the box. Maybe I am misinterpreting your statement.

Dan Keaton · September 17th, 2011, 03:38 PM

Dear Andrew,

Our intial Gemini 4:4:4 firmware will not have 1080p60 enabled.

We want the Gemini 4:4:4 to be absolutely flawless.

So, we have decided to withhold a few features, in the initial firmware, to ensure that we can thoroughly test the features that we have exposed. 1080p60 4:2:2 is one of these features.

Additional features will be added just as soon as they are fully tested tested.

1080p60 4:2:2 is definitely in our plans.

I hope this helps.

Aaron Newsome · September 18th, 2011, 12:11 PM

The Cinedeck only supports 1080p/60 with 8bit Cineform codec. No other codecs are supported for this frame rate.

I have a Cinedeck and an F3 and the 1080p/60 looks very good.

Timur Civan · September 24th, 2011, 01:33 PM

I've been using a Tower to capture 108060P.

Works great. obvously not for non supported outdoor situations, but in the studio its great.

Tom Bostick · September 24th, 2011, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timur Civan

I've been using a Tower to capture 108060P.

Works great. obvously not for non supported outdoor situations, but in the studio its great.

what capture card?

Timur Civan · September 24th, 2011, 10:13 PM

MY DIT would know better.

"Black magic" maybe? AJA something or other......

i'll ask.

September 9th, 2011, 07:16 AM	#1
Drazen Stader Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 30	F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions Hi, there seems to be some confusion in terms of what is needed to shoot 1080 60p on a sony f3...and I have some questions on that matter - which current exisying external recorders support 1080 60p - what needs to be set in the menus...dual link sdi enabled? - what formats can be recorded on those external recorders? - is it possible to record 1080 60p 10bit to aja ki pro mini? does the blackmagic hyperdeck enable to shoot 1080 60p 10bit? - is it possible to record 1080 60p over single sdi (A) and not use at all the port B? yesterday we were testing the dual link from sony f3 to the cinedeck extreme and we could only get 1080 60p in cineform codec...when we tried to record the 1080 60p in pro res we couldn't do it...what's the catch? and what was your experience, what codec and what recorder was used in getting 1080 60p 10bit out from the sony f3? Thanks for the input

September 10th, 2011, 05:55 PM	#2
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions Here is the info for the camera settings: When “Dual-Link & Gamma Select” is set to “1.5G YPbPr422 & Video” OTHERS menu “System” HD SDI output format: NTSC Area/ NTSC(J) Area Country Format: HQ 1920/59.94i Video is output as follows SDI A connector: 1920 × 1080/59.94P@1.5G SDI B connector: 1920 × 1080/59.94P@1.5G __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

September 15th, 2011, 12:49 PM	#3
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions The Sony SR-R1 will do 1080p60 4:2:2. The soon to be released Convergent design Gemini has it as a future planned upgrade. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 17th, 2011, 03:09 PM	#4
Andrew Stone Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 975	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions Alister this is the first I have heard of the Gemini not producing 1080p60 4:2:2 out of the box. Maybe I am misinterpreting your statement.

September 17th, 2011, 03:38 PM	#5
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions Dear Andrew, Our intial Gemini 4:4:4 firmware will not have 1080p60 enabled. We want the Gemini 4:4:4 to be absolutely flawless. So, we have decided to withhold a few features, in the initial firmware, to ensure that we can thoroughly test the features that we have exposed. 1080p60 4:2:2 is one of these features. Additional features will be added just as soon as they are fully tested tested. 1080p60 4:2:2 is definitely in our plans. I hope this helps. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 18th, 2011, 12:11 PM	#6
Aaron Newsome Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 590	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions The Cinedeck only supports 1080p/60 with 8bit Cineform codec. No other codecs are supported for this frame rate. I have a Cinedeck and an F3 and the 1080p/60 looks very good.

September 24th, 2011, 01:33 PM	#7
Timur Civan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 120	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions I've been using a Tower to capture 108060P. Works great. obvously not for non supported outdoor situations, but in the studio its great. __________________ Director of Photography - www.timurcivan.com Sony F3, Cooke lenses, sunny disposition.

September 24th, 2011, 10:13 PM	#9
Timur Civan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 120	Re: F3 and 1080 60p recording options and solutions MY DIT would know better. "Black magic" maybe? AJA something or other...... i'll ask. __________________ Director of Photography - www.timurcivan.com Sony F3, Cooke lenses, sunny disposition.