PMW F3k or NXCAM super 35mm?

Peter Moretti · March 6th, 2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by David Heath

I have to say I find that odd. (And yes, disappointing.)

Like Glen, I think it odd that it wouldn't have HD-SDI when the (cheaper) NX5 does. Yes, you pay more for the sensor versus the 1/3" chips of the NX5, but why should that then lead to lesser features in other ways?

The ND aspect is even stranger. Assuming the same sensor, then unless it's treated in a completely different way it should have the same (extremely good) sensitivity of the F3. So, as it stands, without built-in ND it would be completely unable to record in normal daylight lighting settings out of the box!

OK, it could be got round, but it seems a lot of extra, unnecessary, expense for something fairly basic that is the norm on the vast majority of other camcorders, to say nothing of inconvienience. In many situations swinging a filter is vastly easier than physically changing filters in front of the lens.

No HD-SDI, no built-in ND.

NXCAM S35, the new DSLR.

/partial sarcasm off

Erik Phairas · March 6th, 2011, 11:15 AM

Did Sony's last large sensor camcorder have an built in ND filter? That little APSC camcorder released last year? (I forget the name) It had a very narrow barrel compared to the sensor just like the NXS35.

Glen Vandermolen · March 6th, 2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Erik Phairas

Did Sony's last large sensor camcorder have an built in ND filter? That little APSC camcorder released last year? (I forget the name) It had a very narrow barrel compared to the sensor just like the NXS35.

You're referring to the NEX-VG10. No, it does not have a filter wheel.

Erik Phairas · March 6th, 2011, 12:32 PM

That's interesting seeing how it might relate to Sony's thinking with the NXcam, so it just stops down in sunlight? I wonder if the user manual makes the suggestion to use external ND filters to preserve sharpness or control DOF?

Glen Vandermolen · March 6th, 2011, 12:42 PM

If you use the VG10 in bright sunlight, yes, an ND filter would be very useful.
I have a VG10 and I need an ND filter. I can only imagine it being worse with an S35 sensor.
The bright side is, If I get the NXCAM S35, I already have one lens that fits.
Oh, and the new cam better have some kind of focus assist. The VG10 really needs this feature (it doesn't have it).

Erik Phairas · March 6th, 2011, 12:45 PM

Thanks for the input Glen. Something to think about. Can't wait until we know for sure.

March 6th, 2011, 11:15 AM	#17
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Re: PMW F3k or NXCAM super 35mm? Did Sony's last large sensor camcorder have an built in ND filter? That little APSC camcorder released last year? (I forget the name) It had a very narrow barrel compared to the sensor just like the NXS35. __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam

March 6th, 2011, 12:32 PM	#19
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Re: PMW F3k or NXCAM super 35mm? That's interesting seeing how it might relate to Sony's thinking with the NXcam, so it just stops down in sunlight? I wonder if the user manual makes the suggestion to use external ND filters to preserve sharpness or control DOF? __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam

March 6th, 2011, 12:42 PM	#20
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Re: PMW F3k or NXCAM super 35mm? If you use the VG10 in bright sunlight, yes, an ND filter would be very useful. I have a VG10 and I need an ND filter. I can only imagine it being worse with an S35 sensor. The bright side is, If I get the NXCAM S35, I already have one lens that fits. Oh, and the new cam better have some kind of focus assist. The VG10 really needs this feature (it doesn't have it).

March 6th, 2011, 12:45 PM	#21
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Re: PMW F3k or NXCAM super 35mm? Thanks for the input Glen. Something to think about. Can't wait until we know for sure. __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam