Unboxed, with a light review

Timur Civan · February 22nd, 2011, 03:09 PM

Gotta be in it to win it.

However, gear is only part of the equation. I wouldn't be in this position to use this stuff without the education i received from the many DP's who have taught me the skills i need to do my job. This is why i have dedicated myself to sharing the knowledge i gather. Hence the blog and participation on the various forums.

As i get more findings you can be sure i will share it.

Leonard Levy · February 22nd, 2011, 04:59 PM

Tim,
I'm jealous of those lenses man.
Are those the T2.8 Cooke's? Curious why you made the decision to go with the slower lenses ( say as opposed to an older set of Zeiss standard's). I assume its the look but you must have considered the trade-offs .
I'm bending my brain about how to set up the F3.

Timur Civan · February 22nd, 2011, 08:43 PM

Speed is not the determining factor when choosing primes. I'm concerned about factory support, build quality, maintenance costs, optical quality, rentability ( iPanchros are optically matched with S4's and S5's in all image charachterisitcs), coveres 5K for Rental to the Epic market.... etc.

Older zeiss super speeds, standard speeds, etc all will require maintenece during their new found lives in the Digital S35 world. Zeiss no longer produces super speeds, nor have they for 20 years, same for Standards. You can never truly repair them. ITs essentially one patch over another, over another.... Eventually the lens is unserviceable requiring a full rehouse ( HUGE $$$). Not to mention alot of this glass wont cover the 5k Epic sensor eliminaing your glass from the running for a Epic production. In addition, with the increased sensitivity of the current Digital Cinema cameras a T2.8 stop is not of concern.

Brave new world.

Leonard Levy · February 23rd, 2011, 02:40 AM

Thanks for your thoughts Timur.

Steve Strickle · February 23rd, 2011, 04:31 AM

Yes, many thanks for your efforts to share, Timur!
"Gotta be in it to win it" is great.

I actually got a quote on the iPanchros thinking that I could rent them out too, but I know I'd not let them leave my grubby paws once I had them. ;-)

I'll be mating an Angenieux 17-102 to my F3 and see that that gives me.
I'll report back here once I get some images off it. ;-)

Timur Civan · February 23rd, 2011, 02:22 PM

That should be a great lens! Angeniuex makes great glass.

Good focal range too.... And Trust me you wont feel the "slow" speed.

February 22nd, 2011, 03:09 PM	#16
Timur Civan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 120	Re: Unboxed, with a light review Gotta be in it to win it. However, gear is only part of the equation. I wouldn't be in this position to use this stuff without the education i received from the many DP's who have taught me the skills i need to do my job. This is why i have dedicated myself to sharing the knowledge i gather. Hence the blog and participation on the various forums. As i get more findings you can be sure i will share it. __________________ Director of Photography - www.timurcivan.com Sony F3, Cooke lenses, sunny disposition.

February 22nd, 2011, 04:59 PM	#17
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Re: Unboxed, with a light review Tim, I'm jealous of those lenses man. Are those the T2.8 Cooke's? Curious why you made the decision to go with the slower lenses ( say as opposed to an older set of Zeiss standard's). I assume its the look but you must have considered the trade-offs . I'm bending my brain about how to set up the F3.

February 22nd, 2011, 08:43 PM	#18
Timur Civan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 120	Re: Unboxed, with a light review Speed is not the determining factor when choosing primes. I'm concerned about factory support, build quality, maintenance costs, optical quality, rentability ( iPanchros are optically matched with S4's and S5's in all image charachterisitcs), coveres 5K for Rental to the Epic market.... etc. Older zeiss super speeds, standard speeds, etc all will require maintenece during their new found lives in the Digital S35 world. Zeiss no longer produces super speeds, nor have they for 20 years, same for Standards. You can never truly repair them. ITs essentially one patch over another, over another.... Eventually the lens is unserviceable requiring a full rehouse ( HUGE $$$). Not to mention alot of this glass wont cover the 5k Epic sensor eliminaing your glass from the running for a Epic production. In addition, with the increased sensitivity of the current Digital Cinema cameras a T2.8 stop is not of concern. Brave new world. __________________ Director of Photography - www.timurcivan.com Sony F3, Cooke lenses, sunny disposition.

February 23rd, 2011, 02:40 AM	#19
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Re: Unboxed, with a light review Thanks for your thoughts Timur.

February 23rd, 2011, 04:31 AM	#20
Steve Strickle New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 23	Re: Unboxed, with a light review Yes, many thanks for your efforts to share, Timur! "Gotta be in it to win it" is great. I actually got a quote on the iPanchros thinking that I could rent them out too, but I know I'd not let them leave my grubby paws once I had them. ;-) I'll be mating an Angenieux 17-102 to my F3 and see that that gives me. I'll report back here once I get some images off it. ;-)

February 23rd, 2011, 02:22 PM	#21
Timur Civan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 120	Re: Unboxed, with a light review That should be a great lens! Angeniuex makes great glass. Good focal range too.... And Trust me you wont feel the "slow" speed. __________________ Director of Photography - www.timurcivan.com Sony F3, Cooke lenses, sunny disposition.