Any speculation on how the ex will do with 35mm adapters? at DVinfo.net

Matt Buys · July 18th, 2007, 10:44 PM

Great? Bad? No real difference? I've heard mixed things about the fujinon lens.

Tim Polster · July 19th, 2007, 06:46 AM

Just a guess, but given how nice the HVX-200 looks with the Brevis, I bet it is going to look great with more light capability as well.

Mark Kenfield · July 21st, 2007, 03:08 AM

I'm thinking that those 1/2" sensors and the Fujinon glass are going to push what you can do with a "prosumer" level camera and a 35mm adapter to some exciting new heights.

Very excited to see how this camera turns out.

Mathieu Ghekiere · July 31st, 2007, 08:23 AM

Are there 35mm adaptor who work with 1/2 sensors?

I know about the many adaptors who work with 1/3 CCD's, and I know about the Pro35 adaptor which works with 2/3 chips, but is there one that works with 1/2 CCD's?

Mike Marriage · July 31st, 2007, 10:29 AM

There is now a Pro35 adapter for 1/2" cameras, namely the XDCAM HD range.

Providing that the lens on the EX would focus close enough, you could use the current non-relay adapters, such as the M2, with it.

Jemore Santos · September 8th, 2007, 09:06 PM

Do you think the EX1 will have an "inverted flip" mode for other 35mm adapters?

E.J. Sadler · September 9th, 2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathieu Ghekiere

Are there 35mm adaptor who work with 1/2 sensors?

The Brevis works great on any camera independent of the chip size.

If this camera had a removable lens, it would have been the perfect adapter camera with a relay lens.

Kyle Self · September 9th, 2007, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Buys

Great? Bad? No real difference? I've heard mixed things about the fujinon lens.

What "mixed" things?

I would like to see a really impartial test soon but the only "Mixed things" I've heard or seen have come from people married to panny. I pretty much just ignore those out the gate. There are too many of them that if you listen will still try and convince you that XDCAM is the exact same thing as HDV, which they even know is not true when they say it.

K

Alex Leith · September 9th, 2007, 05:43 PM

I have to agree with Kyle... I haven't seen anything (overly) critical said about the Fujinon lens so far from those who've spent time using the prototype(s).

Paul Izbicki · September 9th, 2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jemore Santos

Do you think the EX1 will have an "inverted flip" mode for other 35mm adapters?

No, I don't.

Paul Ramsbottom · September 10th, 2007, 01:27 AM

Um, I'm trying to decide between the HVX200 and the EX and am leaning towards the EX because I want to get a shallow(er) DOF without using an adapter. Am I missing something here?

Bob Grant · September 10th, 2007, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Ramsbottom

Um, I'm trying to decide between the HVX200 and the EX and am leaning towards the EX because I want to get a shallow(er) DOF without using an adapter. Am I missing something here?

Not that I know of. The larger imager and smaller circle of confusion from the higher resolution will both help. Minimum F stop of the two lenses will also be a factor that I don't have the data to comment on is also a factor. You should also temper that however with how the lens performs fully open. Most sub uber expensive lenses don't perform as well with the iris fully open.

E.J. Sadler · September 10th, 2007, 02:29 PM

Even a 2/3" camera with a CinePrime has tons of DOF and nothing remotely close to what you can get with an adapter. With a non removable zoom this camera isn't going to have DOF characteristics that much different than a 1/3" camera.

Chris Barcellos · September 10th, 2007, 02:54 PM

One of the big problems with HDV cmos and 3 chip camera is light gathering capabilities. I saw in one of the initial write ups that there will be a gain of 1 and 1/2 to two stops. That will be extremely helpful in my experience with Letus, and M2 adapters, maybe moving out of the grainy high gain situation in some shooting situations.

July 18th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#1
Matt Buys Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 426	Any speculation on how the ex will do with 35mm adapters? Great? Bad? No real difference? I've heard mixed things about the fujinon lens.

July 31st, 2007, 08:23 AM	#4
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Are there 35mm adaptor who work with 1/2 sensors? I know about the many adaptors who work with 1/3 CCD's, and I know about the Pro35 adaptor which works with 2/3 chips, but is there one that works with 1/2 CCD's? __________________ http://productionsofthe3rdkind.com http://pr3k.com

September 8th, 2007, 09:06 PM	#6
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	Do you think the EX1 will have an "inverted flip" mode for other 35mm adapters? __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

September 9th, 2007, 05:43 PM	#9
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	I have to agree with Kyle... I haven't seen anything (overly) critical said about the Fujinon lens so far from those who've spent time using the prototype(s). __________________ Alex

September 10th, 2007, 02:54 PM	#14
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	One of the big problems with HDV cmos and 3 chip camera is light gathering capabilities. I saw in one of the initial write ups that there will be a gain of 1 and 1/2 to two stops. That will be extremely helpful in my experience with Letus, and M2 adapters, maybe moving out of the grainy high gain situation in some shooting situations. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

July 19th, 2007, 06:46 AM	#2
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Just a guess, but given how nice the HVX-200 looks with the Brevis, I bet it is going to look great with more light capability as well.

July 21st, 2007, 03:08 AM	#3
Mark Kenfield Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 470	I'm thinking that those 1/2" sensors and the Fujinon glass are going to push what you can do with a "prosumer" level camera and a 35mm adapter to some exciting new heights. Very excited to see how this camera turns out.

July 31st, 2007, 10:29 AM	#5
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	There is now a Pro35 adapter for 1/2" cameras, namely the XDCAM HD range. Providing that the lens on the EX would focus close enough, you could use the current non-relay adapters, such as the M2, with it.

September 10th, 2007, 01:27 AM	#11
Paul Ramsbottom Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 85	Um, I'm trying to decide between the HVX200 and the EX and am leaning towards the EX because I want to get a shallow(er) DOF without using an adapter. Am I missing something here?

September 10th, 2007, 02:29 PM	#13
E.J. Sadler Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 65	Even a 2/3" camera with a CinePrime has tons of DOF and nothing remotely close to what you can get with an adapter. With a non removable zoom this camera isn't going to have DOF characteristics that much different than a 1/3" camera.