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Yiannis Hadjis · January 16th, 2016, 11:32 AM

I've just got my hand on one of these and I'm a bit confused by the shutter slide switch on the camera. Settings are on and off, and when it is on it uses the shutter speed you've set in the camera menu and displays that in the view finder, and when it is off it doesn't show anything. But what does "off" do?

It doesn't go to auto as far as I am aware as that is also set in the menu (and I have it set to off).

Any suggestions on what the slide switch "off" setting does, as you can't have no shutter speed as far as I'm aware?!

Doug Jensen · January 17th, 2016, 11:04 AM

Yiannis,

I don't have an X160, but I'm sure it is the same as all the rest of the Sony cameras.
When shutter is "off" it becomes the same as the frame rate:

OFF = 1/24 when you are shooting 24P
OFF = 1/30 when you are shooting 30P
OFF = 1/25 when you are shooting 25P

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Yiannis Hadjis · January 18th, 2016, 03:27 AM

Thanks very much. That makes sense, although I'm not sure why that is a switch rather than a menu setting: Why would you need such easy access to a 360 degree shutter setting?

Doug Jensen · January 18th, 2016, 05:38 AM

I can't explain it either, it does seem like something that would never be used. A waste of a switch that could have been used for something more useful. Welcome to the world of Sony cameras.

Dave Sperling · January 18th, 2016, 09:03 PM

My guess would be that it goes back to 60i/50i 'legacy' interlace recording, where the ability to switch in/out of a specific shutter speed would have been more useful on demand. (and the switch most likely would remain in the 'off'' position most of the time.) With progressive we almost always shoot with a 180 degree shutter in place to eliminate smear, so the switch pretty much stays on...

Paul Anderegg · January 30th, 2016, 11:42 PM

Wow, you guys obviously have no night ENG experience....heh.

The SHUTTER SWITCH is a necessary function for me to access while shooting 60p night ENG. For movement, 1/30th second shutter looks BAD, smears like crazy. But when it's dark and you are stuck using an on camera LED, you would want to drop the OFF 1/60 60p shutter quickly down to 1/30 with the switch, to gain a stop of exposure. The X200 I bought LACKS this switch, and when shooting 60p at night, it is a HUGE PITA to go into the menu to select SLS 2 frame to get to 1/30th, then do it again to switch back.

The best camera for shutter changing is the JVC ProHD line, button toggle shutter on and off, up down to change speed. Next best is the Panasonic stuff with the shutter clicker on the front under the lens, but that is a one way toggle through, pass your speed and gotta go through the whole list to get back to it.

Paul

January 16th, 2016, 11:32 AM	#1
Yiannis Hadjis Tourist Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Brighton Posts: 4	Sony X160 shutter switch I've just got my hand on one of these and I'm a bit confused by the shutter slide switch on the camera. Settings are on and off, and when it is on it uses the shutter speed you've set in the camera menu and displays that in the view finder, and when it is off it doesn't show anything. But what does "off" do? It doesn't go to auto as far as I am aware as that is also set in the menu (and I have it set to off). Any suggestions on what the slide switch "off" setting does, as you can't have no shutter speed as far as I'm aware?!

January 17th, 2016, 11:04 AM	#2
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Sony X160 shutter switch Yiannis, I don't have an X160, but I'm sure it is the same as all the rest of the Sony cameras. When shutter is "off" it becomes the same as the frame rate: OFF = 1/24 when you are shooting 24P OFF = 1/30 when you are shooting 30P OFF = 1/25 when you are shooting 25P Mastering the PMW-200-160-150-100 Camcorders __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

January 18th, 2016, 03:27 AM	#3
Yiannis Hadjis Tourist Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Brighton Posts: 4	Re: Sony X160 shutter switch Thanks very much. That makes sense, although I'm not sure why that is a switch rather than a menu setting: Why would you need such easy access to a 360 degree shutter setting?

January 18th, 2016, 05:38 AM	#4
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: Sony X160 shutter switch I can't explain it either, it does seem like something that would never be used. A waste of a switch that could have been used for something more useful. Welcome to the world of Sony cameras. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

January 18th, 2016, 09:03 PM	#5
Dave Sperling Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tinton Falls, NJ Posts: 780	Re: Sony X160 shutter switch My guess would be that it goes back to 60i/50i 'legacy' interlace recording, where the ability to switch in/out of a specific shutter speed would have been more useful on demand. (and the switch most likely would remain in the 'off'' position most of the time.) With progressive we almost always shoot with a 180 degree shutter in place to eliminate smear, so the switch pretty much stays on...

January 30th, 2016, 11:42 PM	#6
Paul Anderegg Trustee Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, Califonia Posts: 1,559	Re: Sony X160 shutter switch Wow, you guys obviously have no night ENG experience....heh. The SHUTTER SWITCH is a necessary function for me to access while shooting 60p night ENG. For movement, 1/30th second shutter looks BAD, smears like crazy. But when it's dark and you are stuck using an on camera LED, you would want to drop the OFF 1/60 60p shutter quickly down to 1/30 with the switch, to gain a stop of exposure. The X200 I bought LACKS this switch, and when shooting 60p at night, it is a HUGE PITA to go into the menu to select SLS 2 frame to get to 1/30th, then do it again to switch back. The best camera for shutter changing is the JVC ProHD line, button toggle shutter on and off, up down to change speed. Next best is the Panasonic stuff with the shutter clicker on the front under the lens, but that is a one way toggle through, pass your speed and gotta go through the whole list to get back to it. Paul