Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300

Glen Vandermolen · September 4th, 2013, 07:54 PM

$7,999. Cheaper than I thought.

Swen Goebbels · September 5th, 2013, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

....My guess (and it is a guess) is that it will do 1080p50/60 with XAVC.

When I see all the nice codec and framerate options the new Sony 4K Cameras have, I wonder if there are any news about 1080p50/60 in the PMW-300 yet?

Jack Zhang · September 5th, 2013, 02:25 AM

Assuming it's a must. To have 1080i only with the lower end 4K Handycams beating out the 300 is not going to fly.

Once the 200 replacement with 3 chips and XAVC comes, I'll go for it.

Swen Goebbels · September 16th, 2013, 02:40 AM

Sorry to ask that question again, but can anybody at IBC find out if the PMW-300 can do 1080p50/60 XAVC ?

At the Sony UK site it's not in the specs. I need at least 1080p50 full time recording (with audio), if the PMW300 can't do that I have to look for a Z100, FS700r or other cameras.

Thank you !

Meng Li · September 19th, 2013, 12:31 AM

Also a question, which type of card should be used to record 50mb/s and above? Considering the 1080/60p with XAVC, should I always use SxS Pro+ or any cheaper solutions?

Meanwhile, is a 128G SxS Pro+ worth it?

Alister Chapman · September 19th, 2013, 01:35 AM

One of the big pushes coming from Sony right now is XQD support. The Z100 uses XQD, Sony are updating the F5 and F55 to support XQD and I would expect XQD support on the PMW-300 (it's already there on the PMW-200).

I think XQD is a very viable option and it's a lot cheaper than SxS, in the last few months the cost of XQD has dropped quite a bit. The faster XQD cards can support 4K XAVC at 600Mb/s and the slower speed cards should not have any problems with XAVC-S at 100Mb/s.

Meng Li · September 19th, 2013, 01:41 AM

According to this video:

At 1:52 he said that we can use XQD card with adapter. I just checked the price on BH and found it's $300 for a piece of 64G, and $35 for an adapter. Much cheaper than I thought. And it's universal to most of other machines, like PXW-Z100. Nice.

Oh yes, another question for this is: is there any lens adapter that I can attach onto it to connect with Canon DSLR lens, like 70-200mm F2.8L IS II?

Steve Siegel · September 19th, 2013, 06:58 PM

My understanding is that the PMW300 will use the same third party adapters as the EX3, which allow a variety of 35 mm lenses to be used. Look for them at the MTF Services website, or on B and H.

Meng Li · September 20th, 2013, 05:55 AM

Looks like it might be this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/757952-REG/MTF_Services_Ltd_MTCANEFEX3_Canon_EF_to_Sony.html
Correct?

Steven Davis · September 30th, 2013, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Solaini

If the PMW300 is good in low light I might very well sell my XF300 and buy one.

Being an interchangeable lens camera like the EX3 is a massive advantage for me when I shoot wildlife as I could use an adaptor and Nikon lenses and utilise the crop factor.

Hey Andy, I've been trying to find information on using other lenses, I have a decent amount of full frame Nikon lenses. Do you have any more information?

Steven Davis · September 30th, 2013, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Solaini

If the PMW300 is good in low light I might very well sell my XF300 and buy one.

Being an interchangeable lens camera like the EX3 is a massive advantage for me when I shoot wildlife as I could use an adaptor and Nikon lenses and utilise the crop factor.

I'm very interested in this camera, since I want to replace my workhorse, Z1u.

I have two Nikon D800s that I'm phazing in. So I'm looking to get closer to them with something like the PMW-300.

Also, I'm assuming that since Sony owns Vegas, I won't have any hiccups there.

Meng Li · October 9th, 2013, 07:28 PM

Today I just noticed that BH has changed their Date of Available from exact 'Oct 15 2013' to a fuzzy 'Oct 2013'...

Anyone have any ideas? Is this a problem of BH or Sony again?
Sony PMW-300K1 XDCAM HD Camcorder PMW-300K1 B&H Photo Video

Brent Kaplan · October 9th, 2013, 10:43 PM

I noticed that as well, but they also added all the infor and specs for the camera that wasnt there before,

maybe its a mistake or maybe they sold out of preorders or maybe Sony is running behind or maybe????

Meng Li · October 11th, 2013, 02:30 AM

...ok I have seen that they have just changed it back to 'Oct 15 2013' again. Guess they won't miss our expectations, especially those who have pre-ordered it already. Hmph.

Andrew Smith · October 14th, 2013, 07:36 AM

Does anybody know if the PMW300 will play out through SDI when playing (from the camera) clips that have been recorded? I used an EX3 over the weekend and had no such luck. Apparently the camera does output SDI live when switched on in 'camera' mode.

Also, any word on if the USB connection for the camera will be USB3? My cynical EX3 owning friend reckons he wouldn't be surprised if the camera only came with USB2 even at this late stage.

Andrew

September 4th, 2013, 07:54 PM	#121
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 $7,999. Cheaper than I thought.

September 5th, 2013, 02:25 AM	#123
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 Assuming it's a must. To have 1080i only with the lower end 4K Handycams beating out the 300 is not going to fly. Once the 200 replacement with 3 chips and XAVC comes, I'll go for it.

September 16th, 2013, 02:40 AM	#124
Swen Goebbels Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aachen, Germany and Las Vegas NV Posts: 107	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 Sorry to ask that question again, but can anybody at IBC find out if the PMW-300 can do 1080p50/60 XAVC ? At the Sony UK site it's not in the specs. I need at least 1080p50 full time recording (with audio), if the PMW300 can't do that I have to look for a Z100, FS700r or other cameras. Thank you !

September 19th, 2013, 12:31 AM	#125
Meng Li Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 52	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 Also a question, which type of card should be used to record 50mb/s and above? Considering the 1080/60p with XAVC, should I always use SxS Pro+ or any cheaper solutions? Meanwhile, is a 128G SxS Pro+ worth it?

September 19th, 2013, 01:35 AM	#126
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 One of the big pushes coming from Sony right now is XQD support. The Z100 uses XQD, Sony are updating the F5 and F55 to support XQD and I would expect XQD support on the PMW-300 (it's already there on the PMW-200). I think XQD is a very viable option and it's a lot cheaper than SxS, in the last few months the cost of XQD has dropped quite a bit. The faster XQD cards can support 4K XAVC at 600Mb/s and the slower speed cards should not have any problems with XAVC-S at 100Mb/s. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 19th, 2013, 01:41 AM	#127
Meng Li Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 52	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 According to this video: Sony PMW-300 Review - YouTube At 1:52 he said that we can use XQD card with adapter. I just checked the price on BH and found it's $300 for a piece of 64G, and $35 for an adapter. Much cheaper than I thought. And it's universal to most of other machines, like PXW-Z100. Nice. Oh yes, another question for this is: is there any lens adapter that I can attach onto it to connect with Canon DSLR lens, like 70-200mm F2.8L IS II?

September 19th, 2013, 06:58 PM	#128
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 My understanding is that the PMW300 will use the same third party adapters as the EX3, which allow a variety of 35 mm lenses to be used. Look for them at the MTF Services website, or on B and H.

September 20th, 2013, 05:55 AM	#129
Meng Li Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 52	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 Looks like it might be this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/757952-REG/MTF_Services_Ltd_MTCANEFEX3_Canon_EF_to_Sony.html Correct?

October 9th, 2013, 07:28 PM	#132
Meng Li Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 52	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 Today I just noticed that BH has changed their Date of Available from exact 'Oct 15 2013' to a fuzzy 'Oct 2013'... Anyone have any ideas? Is this a problem of BH or Sony again? Sony PMW-300K1 XDCAM HD Camcorder PMW-300K1 B&H Photo Video

October 9th, 2013, 10:43 PM	#133
Brent Kaplan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 166	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 I noticed that as well, but they also added all the infor and specs for the camera that wasnt there before, maybe its a mistake or maybe they sold out of preorders or maybe Sony is running behind or maybe????

October 11th, 2013, 02:30 AM	#134
Meng Li Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 52	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 ...ok I have seen that they have just changed it back to 'Oct 15 2013' again. Guess they won't miss our expectations, especially those who have pre-ordered it already. Hmph.

October 14th, 2013, 07:36 AM	#135
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	Re: Sony unveils the EX3 successor: PMW-300 Does anybody know if the PMW300 will play out through SDI when playing (from the camera) clips that have been recorded? I used an EX3 over the weekend and had no such luck. Apparently the camera does output SDI live when switched on in 'camera' mode. Also, any word on if the USB connection for the camera will be USB3? My cynical EX3 owning friend reckons he wouldn't be surprised if the camera only came with USB2 even at this late stage. Andrew