Maybe selling my EX3 at DVinfo.net

Larry Huntington · October 17th, 2011, 11:02 PM

I might be selling all of my gear soon. What's a good shape EX3 worth? (has lots of extras but looking for a base price on the EX3). It has roughly 550 hours on the meter and has the latest firmware 1.15 ( I think) from Sony.
I might tell you why I may sell everything later but I was just curious what the camera with stock lens is worth. I also have a baseplate, b and w ir filter and the fujinon 8x wide lens. Those would or might be separate purchases. With my video and audio gear I think I have close to $15k US worth. Any ideas what these cameras are selling for these days?

Larry Huntington · October 17th, 2011, 11:07 PM

I can give a full list of extras....I have 3 Sony batteries- 1 stock and two biggies which still hold a good charge.

Les Wilson · October 18th, 2011, 06:06 AM

For a popular item like this, a search on e-Bay with the "Completed Listings" filter will show you comps and what they have actually sold for (green prices) vs ones that did not sell (red prices).

Larry Huntington · October 18th, 2011, 02:39 PM

Thanks I'll check that out!

Paul Cronin · October 20th, 2011, 06:11 AM

Larry are you interested in going to a 2/3" CCD Sony XDCAM PMW-500 with VF and lens?

Larry Huntington · October 22nd, 2011, 05:39 PM

Paul,
I was actually thinking of downgrading to an iphone 4s. It's a pretty insane idea and I will probably keep my EX3 and add the phone to my arsenal. I do plan on creating a market for the the iphone- lower cost for clients, so that I can have more lower end clients to get their video to market quickly and cheaper. Of course, I also edit and my editing rates will hover around the $50 per hour rate (or project rate tbd). I have a sliding scale so I can at least pay the rent. I have made some pretty incredible videos on the iphone 4 with no lights, no sound- just me and my iphone and a steady hand (I'm working on a tripod for it too). Yeah I loose out on manual settings and all the beauties that come with a real camera, but again the iphone is for cut and dry infomercial stuff. I'll keep the EX3 for all the cool jobs.

Vincent Oliver · October 23rd, 2011, 12:13 AM

I can't imagine any client being that impressed with anyone turning up for a paid job using an iphone. What excuse could you possibly use if things didn't work out on a shoot, would you blame the iphone?

The iphone may be OK for your home fun movies and making phone calls, but keep you professional video standard on a higher level, don't dumb down your pro status.

Paul Cronin · October 23rd, 2011, 07:26 AM

Thanks for the response Larry, Good luck with your choice of gear.

Kevin Spahr · October 23rd, 2011, 11:03 AM

Buy a big camera on eBay that is dead, take the LCD off the camera and mount your iPhone in its place. Then you would look like you're using pro gear ; )

Olakunle Olanrewaju · October 25th, 2011, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Huntington

Paul,
I was actually thinking of downgrading to an iphone 4s. It's a pretty insane idea..........

I agree it is pretty insane.

Barry J. Anwender · October 25th, 2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cronin

Larry are you interested in going to a 2/3" CCD Sony XDCAM PMW-500 with VF and lens?

B&H New York, now lists the PMW-500 as "DISCONTINUED". "This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available."

Luc De Wandel · October 26th, 2011, 01:16 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony would discontinue the PMW500. I had one for testing and it is an awesome camera, but the pricing is (was?) completely insane. It costs 3 times the price of a PMW320 and I do not see any difference in image quality on my 42 inch monitor. Of course the 500 can do 4:2:2 but unless there's a lot of grading or filtering, that is no real advantage as far as I'm concerned. And then again, adding a Ki Pro or a Nanoflash will solve that problem too, for a much lower cost.

Other minor advantages are the ones offered by CCD instead of CMOS (no rolling shutter effect), the shallower depth of field and the flip-out LCD on the side. But these are not worth a 200% price difference... Just my point of view, of course.

Paul Cronin · October 26th, 2011, 07:15 AM

Luc, I am very busy and don't want to get into a debate about this but, if you are saying the PMW320 and PMW500 have the same picture quality you surprise me with such an inaccurate statement. That is just not true. CCD vs CMOS is an old story and I do not want to get into that one, I know what I like better and most of my clients like better. I have had and still have some of these cameras: EX1 w/and w/out Nano, F800, PMW350, PMW500, and I have to stay you can't see the difference between the 500 and 800 but the difference is HUGE between the PMW350, EX1 w/and w/out Nano. The PMW500 is the best camera I have ever used and that includes my old Red One.

So now if anyone wants a great deal check out the updated classified ad.

Paul Cronin · October 26th, 2011, 07:28 AM

B&H has this listed that way but all other retailers have it in stock. Also on Sony's site it is still in production. This has happened with B&H before so I do not take it as fact until I hear back today from Sony and Abel.

Paul Cronin · October 26th, 2011, 09:22 AM

I just heard back from my contact at Abel Cine Tech in NYC. The PMW-500 is NOT discontinued. The camera is now standard with the SDI/Composite Video Input/digital extender option which raises the price $3K.

It would be crazy for Sony to stop producing this camera it is a winner in so many ways.

October 17th, 2011, 11:02 PM	#1
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	Maybe selling my EX3 I might be selling all of my gear soon. What's a good shape EX3 worth? (has lots of extras but looking for a base price on the EX3). It has roughly 550 hours on the meter and has the latest firmware 1.15 ( I think) from Sony. I might tell you why I may sell everything later but I was just curious what the camera with stock lens is worth. I also have a baseplate, b and w ir filter and the fujinon 8x wide lens. Those would or might be separate purchases. With my video and audio gear I think I have close to $15k US worth. Any ideas what these cameras are selling for these days?

October 17th, 2011, 11:07 PM	#2
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 I can give a full list of extras....I have 3 Sony batteries- 1 stock and two biggies which still hold a good charge.

October 18th, 2011, 06:06 AM	#3
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 For a popular item like this, a search on e-Bay with the "Completed Listings" filter will show you comps and what they have actually sold for (green prices) vs ones that did not sell (red prices).

October 18th, 2011, 02:39 PM	#4
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 Thanks I'll check that out!

October 20th, 2011, 06:11 AM	#5
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 Larry are you interested in going to a 2/3" CCD Sony XDCAM PMW-500 with VF and lens? __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

October 22nd, 2011, 05:39 PM	#6
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 Paul, I was actually thinking of downgrading to an iphone 4s. It's a pretty insane idea and I will probably keep my EX3 and add the phone to my arsenal. I do plan on creating a market for the the iphone- lower cost for clients, so that I can have more lower end clients to get their video to market quickly and cheaper. Of course, I also edit and my editing rates will hover around the $50 per hour rate (or project rate tbd). I have a sliding scale so I can at least pay the rent. I have made some pretty incredible videos on the iphone 4 with no lights, no sound- just me and my iphone and a steady hand (I'm working on a tripod for it too). Yeah I loose out on manual settings and all the beauties that come with a real camera, but again the iphone is for cut and dry infomercial stuff. I'll keep the EX3 for all the cool jobs.

October 23rd, 2011, 12:13 AM	#7
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 I can't imagine any client being that impressed with anyone turning up for a paid job using an iphone. What excuse could you possibly use if things didn't work out on a shoot, would you blame the iphone? The iphone may be OK for your home fun movies and making phone calls, but keep you professional video standard on a higher level, don't dumb down your pro status. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

October 23rd, 2011, 07:26 AM	#8
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 Thanks for the response Larry, Good luck with your choice of gear. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

October 23rd, 2011, 11:03 AM	#9
Kevin Spahr Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 451	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 Buy a big camera on eBay that is dead, take the LCD off the camera and mount your iPhone in its place. Then you would look like you're using pro gear ; )

October 26th, 2011, 01:16 AM	#12
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 I wouldn't be surprised if Sony would discontinue the PMW500. I had one for testing and it is an awesome camera, but the pricing is (was?) completely insane. It costs 3 times the price of a PMW320 and I do not see any difference in image quality on my 42 inch monitor. Of course the 500 can do 4:2:2 but unless there's a lot of grading or filtering, that is no real advantage as far as I'm concerned. And then again, adding a Ki Pro or a Nanoflash will solve that problem too, for a much lower cost. Other minor advantages are the ones offered by CCD instead of CMOS (no rolling shutter effect), the shallower depth of field and the flip-out LCD on the side. But these are not worth a 200% price difference... Just my point of view, of course.

October 26th, 2011, 07:15 AM	#13
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 Luc, I am very busy and don't want to get into a debate about this but, if you are saying the PMW320 and PMW500 have the same picture quality you surprise me with such an inaccurate statement. That is just not true. CCD vs CMOS is an old story and I do not want to get into that one, I know what I like better and most of my clients like better. I have had and still have some of these cameras: EX1 w/and w/out Nano, F800, PMW350, PMW500, and I have to stay you can't see the difference between the 500 and 800 but the difference is HUGE between the PMW350, EX1 w/and w/out Nano. The PMW500 is the best camera I have ever used and that includes my old Red One. So now if anyone wants a great deal check out the updated classified ad. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com Last edited by Paul Cronin; October 26th, 2011 at 09:22 AM.

October 26th, 2011, 07:28 AM	#14
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 B&H has this listed that way but all other retailers have it in stock. Also on Sony's site it is still in production. This has happened with B&H before so I do not take it as fact until I hear back today from Sony and Abel. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

October 26th, 2011, 09:22 AM	#15
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Re: Maybe selling my EX3 I just heard back from my contact at Abel Cine Tech in NYC. The PMW-500 is NOT discontinued. The camera is now standard with the SDI/Composite Video Input/digital extender option which raises the price $3K. It would be crazy for Sony to stop producing this camera it is a winner in so many ways. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com