EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card at DVinfo.net

Steve Kalle · October 10th, 2011, 03:38 PM

I just noticed on both B&H and AbelCine that these cameras do NOT include a SxS card anymore AND the prices have not changed for the cameras.

Is this due to the economy or is the 16GB card not made anymore (I can't find it on either website)?

At least Sony could have reduced the price of the cameras or included their adapters.

Chris Medico · October 10th, 2011, 03:43 PM

That is what you might call a "soft" price increase.

You pay the same but get less. The only difference between Sony and Bryers is they couldn't reduce the camera to 48 ounces instead of a full half gallon like they did with the ice cream.

Steve Kalle · October 10th, 2011, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Medico

That is what you might call a "soft" price increase.

You pay the same but get less. The only difference between Sony and Bryers is they couldn't reduce the camera to 48 ounces instead of a full half gallon like they did with the ice cream.

Speaking of this and inflation, look at orange juice and just about most boxes of juice which have been reduced from 64oz to 58 or so.

Chris Medico · October 10th, 2011, 03:59 PM

Its the new NORM for price increases.

I boycott EVERY product and manufacturer I catch doing it. I've not bought my favorite ice cream now for 3 years.

I would rather they be honest and not do that covert crap.

/soapbox dismount.

Steve Kalle · October 10th, 2011, 04:09 PM

I wouldn't call it 'covert'. They must do it OR they must raise prices. Many companies have raised prices to an acceptable maximum; thus, their only other option is to reduce the amount of product. Core inflation and the CPI (Consumer Price Index) have not been talked about much due to the poor job economy. Many core products such as eggs, oranges and beef have seen large price increases. However, I can't explain why Sony has dropped the included 16GB SxS card, but I would bet that they need less expenses due to losing billions over the last couple years.

Bill Rankin · October 10th, 2011, 08:18 PM

There is a used, low hours, EX1R for sale in the DVINFO classified section.

Jack Zhang · October 10th, 2011, 10:37 PM

I'm guessing demand is still pretty high for the EX1R and EX3. They were back-ordered for quite some time. This keeps the price high... Only if the demand drops will we see a price decrease. (I would only expect that if the replacement is announced at NAB)

Alister Chapman · October 11th, 2011, 12:55 AM

It might have been due to the Tsunami. SxS card production was affected, although I believe is back on track again now. However it can take a little while for shortages to work through the system.

But as said it may just a way to keep prices constant despite the recent large increases in manufacturing costs brought about in part by increased wages in China, the cost of energy and fuel.

Steve Game · October 11th, 2011, 09:45 AM

This was discussed in April when the EX1R/2 appeared. See here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...-ex1r-2-a.html

Steve

Jose Carlos · October 26th, 2011, 07:12 PM

It appears that Sony is once again including a 16gb SxS card with the EX cams.

Sony PMW-EX1R

Sony is pleased to announce a significant enhancement to the popular PMW-EX1R and PMW-EX3 camcorders. To reflect this enhancement, effective immediately, the product cartons will be labeled as PMW-EX1R/3 and PMW-EX3/5. Both the PMW-EX1R and PMW-EX3 will be packaged with a 16GB SBP-16 SxS Memory Card.

Rebates are also available.

Dave Stewart · November 28th, 2011, 10:38 PM

Mine did! Hehe. Wasn't supposed to. Invoice said no card, but there it was - 16 GB. Must have grabbed the wrong box. My lucky day.

Jack Zhang · November 29th, 2011, 06:00 PM

I hope there is adequate stock of the /3 soon, I'm about to plunker down for the EX1R and Nanoflash combo and a 16GB card would mean I wouldn't have to solely rely on SDHC adapters.

October 10th, 2011, 03:38 PM	#1
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card I just noticed on both B&H and AbelCine that these cameras do NOT include a SxS card anymore AND the prices have not changed for the cameras. Is this due to the economy or is the 16GB card not made anymore (I can't find it on either website)? At least Sony could have reduced the price of the cameras or included their adapters.

October 10th, 2011, 03:43 PM	#2
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card That is what you might call a "soft" price increase. You pay the same but get less. The only difference between Sony and Bryers is they couldn't reduce the camera to 48 ounces instead of a full half gallon like they did with the ice cream. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

October 10th, 2011, 03:59 PM	#4
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card Its the new NORM for price increases. I boycott EVERY product and manufacturer I catch doing it. I've not bought my favorite ice cream now for 3 years. I would rather they be honest and not do that covert crap. /soapbox dismount. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

October 10th, 2011, 04:09 PM	#5
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card I wouldn't call it 'covert'. They must do it OR they must raise prices. Many companies have raised prices to an acceptable maximum; thus, their only other option is to reduce the amount of product. Core inflation and the CPI (Consumer Price Index) have not been talked about much due to the poor job economy. Many core products such as eggs, oranges and beef have seen large price increases. However, I can't explain why Sony has dropped the included 16GB SxS card, but I would bet that they need less expenses due to losing billions over the last couple years.

October 10th, 2011, 08:18 PM	#6
Bill Rankin Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 433	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card There is a used, low hours, EX1R for sale in the DVINFO classified section. __________________ Bill Rankin

October 10th, 2011, 10:37 PM	#7
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card I'm guessing demand is still pretty high for the EX1R and EX3. They were back-ordered for quite some time. This keeps the price high... Only if the demand drops will we see a price decrease. (I would only expect that if the replacement is announced at NAB)

October 11th, 2011, 12:55 AM	#8
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card It might have been due to the Tsunami. SxS card production was affected, although I believe is back on track again now. However it can take a little while for shortages to work through the system. But as said it may just a way to keep prices constant despite the recent large increases in manufacturing costs brought about in part by increased wages in China, the cost of energy and fuel. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

October 11th, 2011, 09:45 AM	#9
Steve Game Major Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 353	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card This was discussed in April when the EX1R/2 appeared. See here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...-ex1r-2-a.html Steve

October 26th, 2011, 07:12 PM	#10
Jose Carlos Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 25	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card It appears that Sony is once again including a 16gb SxS card with the EX cams. Sony PMW-EX1R Sony is pleased to announce a significant enhancement to the popular PMW-EX1R and PMW-EX3 camcorders. To reflect this enhancement, effective immediately, the product cartons will be labeled as PMW-EX1R/3 and PMW-EX3/5. Both the PMW-EX1R and PMW-EX3 will be packaged with a 16GB SBP-16 SxS Memory Card. Rebates are also available.

November 28th, 2011, 10:38 PM	#11
Dave Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 109	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card Mine did! Hehe. Wasn't supposed to. Invoice said no card, but there it was - 16 GB. Must have grabbed the wrong box. My lucky day.

November 29th, 2011, 06:00 PM	#12
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Re: EX1r and EX3 No Longer Include a SxS Card I hope there is adequate stock of the /3 soon, I'm about to plunker down for the EX1R and Nanoflash combo and a 16GB card would mean I wouldn't have to solely rely on SDHC adapters.