Canon YH19x6.7 KRS at DVinfo.net

Luc De Wandel · August 2nd, 2011, 12:04 PM

Does anyone here have any experience with this lens for HD acquisition? I know some SD-lenses perform quite well, but I haven't found anything about this particular one.

Ned Soltz · August 2nd, 2011, 12:52 PM

I had a YH18 so I presume the lenses are very similar. Used it a bit on my EX-3 and sold it. Images were soft and you could probably get by with it depending upon your application. Some might even like the softness since the EX does produce such sharp images. Try it and experiment with detail settings to see if it works for you. Not much of answer-- just a qualified "maybe."

Luc De Wandel · August 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM

Thanks for the info, Ned. The problem is I won't have an opportunity to try it, as it is for sale abroad. But it's with a 'money back warranty', so I'll probably risk it. Unless someone else has more hands-on experience. Let's wait and see for some while...

Alister Chapman · August 3rd, 2011, 02:45 AM

I've used a a YH19x6.7 on an EX3 and PMW-F350 and found it to perform quite well. It was almost as good as my Canon KH20x6.4 which cost a lot more money.

Luc De Wandel · August 3rd, 2011, 06:25 AM

Thanks, Alister. I was hoping you would have some experience with this lens. Sounds good, especially as it's only 1/4 th of the price of a second hand KH20. Now I just have to make sure it fits the Sony bayonet. I presume there are some models for JVC too. Or does the 'KRS' in the name have to do anything with the bayonet type?

Sander Vreuls · August 3rd, 2011, 09:56 AM

Don't you have any pictures available? If there is a cable coming from the handgrip it's for JVC/BTS/Panasonic and if there isn't it's for Sony.

I would definatly ask for some hires pictures before buying a lens online.

The KRS just means the following:
K: No extender
R: Zoom:Servo Focus:Manual
S: Iris Servo Control

Luc De Wandel · August 3rd, 2011, 03:10 PM

Hi Sander,

I have once seen a lens exactly like this, with a cable from the grip, that fitted a Sony XDCAM camera perfectly. So the presence of a cable is not conclusive, there are still different bayonets for different camera brands. Some of these lenses have a hot shoe for XDCAM camera's, but some others do have the cable connection (and no hot shoe), depending on the date of production supposedly. I do have a picture and I attach it here.

Alister Chapman · August 4th, 2011, 02:40 AM

Mine did not have a cable, itnused the Sony hotshoe. The majority of Sony fit lenses will not have the cable. There were a lot of these lenses made to fit the Panasonic 1/2" DVCPRO cameras so be careful!

Luc De Wandel · August 5th, 2011, 07:00 AM

Thanks for the extra info, Alister. The vendor claims it will fit a Sony cam, but I want to be 100% sure. I add a picture of the bayonet. Can you see by the look of it if is Sony or Panasonic?

Alister Chapman · August 5th, 2011, 09:31 PM

The Sony and Pana Bayonets are almost identical. I can't tell from the picture, sorry.

Luc De Wandel · August 7th, 2011, 01:14 AM

OK, Alister, thanks anyway.

Tim Lucas · August 28th, 2011, 03:54 AM

Hi there.

I occasionally put my Canon YJ13 6.0 KRS lens on my PMW350 for a wider shot than my standard lens. It produces nice sharp pictures at the wide end but fringing is evident at the long end.

Works well but strangely I cannot see the clips show up in XDCam EX Clip Browser. Must be some lens info type problem.

Luc De Wandel · August 31st, 2011, 02:50 PM

Hi Guys, thanks for all the advice. I ordered the lens - with a money back warranty - and I'll keep you posted about the results after testing.

Luc De Wandel · September 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM

Sorry folks, no test results, Im afraid. The lens I received today proved to be the wrong bayonet type, although I specifically asked for 'Sony 1/2 inch' over and over again. Time to find out how far the 'money back warranty' from Adorama goes...

Luc De Wandel · October 12th, 2011, 03:32 PM

Happy ending: got a complete refund from Adorama, in a very short time and without any discussion. Too bad they didn't check more thoroughly if the lens reallly had a Sony bayonet. Anyway, the 'money back warranty' worked fine, so no harm done.

In the meantime I found and bought this little and inexpensive mint condition Canon lens in the UK: YH16x7 KRS, with Sony hot shoe contacts. Tested it and it appears to be quite sharp, except at apertures wider than 4. It shows quite some breathing, but surprising little CA. It's very light (not even 1 kg) and together with the lightest V-lock battery it makes a very comfortable lightweight combination for the PMW320.

August 2nd, 2011, 12:04 PM	#1
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Does anyone here have any experience with this lens for HD acquisition? I know some SD-lenses perform quite well, but I haven't found anything about this particular one.

August 2nd, 2011, 12:52 PM	#2
Ned Soltz Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 659	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS I had a YH18 so I presume the lenses are very similar. Used it a bit on my EX-3 and sold it. Images were soft and you could probably get by with it depending upon your application. Some might even like the softness since the EX does produce such sharp images. Try it and experiment with detail settings to see if it works for you. Not much of answer-- just a qualified "maybe."

August 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM	#3
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Thanks for the info, Ned. The problem is I won't have an opportunity to try it, as it is for sale abroad. But it's with a 'money back warranty', so I'll probably risk it. Unless someone else has more hands-on experience. Let's wait and see for some while...

August 3rd, 2011, 02:45 AM	#4
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS I've used a a YH19x6.7 on an EX3 and PMW-F350 and found it to perform quite well. It was almost as good as my Canon KH20x6.4 which cost a lot more money. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

August 3rd, 2011, 06:25 AM	#5
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Thanks, Alister. I was hoping you would have some experience with this lens. Sounds good, especially as it's only 1/4 th of the price of a second hand KH20. Now I just have to make sure it fits the Sony bayonet. I presume there are some models for JVC too. Or does the 'KRS' in the name have to do anything with the bayonet type?

August 3rd, 2011, 09:56 AM	#6
Sander Vreuls Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hilversum, The Netherlands Posts: 184	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Don't you have any pictures available? If there is a cable coming from the handgrip it's for JVC/BTS/Panasonic and if there isn't it's for Sony. I would definatly ask for some hires pictures before buying a lens online. The KRS just means the following: K: No extender R: Zoom:Servo Focus:Manual S: Iris Servo Control

August 3rd, 2011, 03:10 PM	#7
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Hi Sander, I have once seen a lens exactly like this, with a cable from the grip, that fitted a Sony XDCAM camera perfectly. So the presence of a cable is not conclusive, there are still different bayonets for different camera brands. Some of these lenses have a hot shoe for XDCAM camera's, but some others do have the cable connection (and no hot shoe), depending on the date of production supposedly. I do have a picture and I attach it here. Attached Thumbnails

August 4th, 2011, 02:40 AM	#8
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Mine did not have a cable, itnused the Sony hotshoe. The majority of Sony fit lenses will not have the cable. There were a lot of these lenses made to fit the Panasonic 1/2" DVCPRO cameras so be careful! __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

August 5th, 2011, 07:00 AM	#9
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Thanks for the extra info, Alister. The vendor claims it will fit a Sony cam, but I want to be 100% sure. I add a picture of the bayonet. Can you see by the look of it if is Sony or Panasonic? Attached Thumbnails

August 5th, 2011, 09:31 PM	#10
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS The Sony and Pana Bayonets are almost identical. I can't tell from the picture, sorry. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

August 7th, 2011, 01:14 AM	#11
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS OK, Alister, thanks anyway.

August 28th, 2011, 03:54 AM	#12
Tim Lucas Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 52	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Hi there. I occasionally put my Canon YJ13 6.0 KRS lens on my PMW350 for a wider shot than my standard lens. It produces nice sharp pictures at the wide end but fringing is evident at the long end. Works well but strangely I cannot see the clips show up in XDCam EX Clip Browser. Must be some lens info type problem. __________________ http://reddogmedia.co.nz/

August 31st, 2011, 02:50 PM	#13
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Hi Guys, thanks for all the advice. I ordered the lens - with a money back warranty - and I'll keep you posted about the results after testing.

September 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM	#14
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Sorry folks, no test results, Im afraid. The lens I received today proved to be the wrong bayonet type, although I specifically asked for 'Sony 1/2 inch' over and over again. Time to find out how far the 'money back warranty' from Adorama goes...

October 12th, 2011, 03:32 PM	#15
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: Canon YH19x6.7 KRS Happy ending: got a complete refund from Adorama, in a very short time and without any discussion. Too bad they didn't check more thoroughly if the lens reallly had a Sony bayonet. Anyway, the 'money back warranty' worked fine, so no harm done. In the meantime I found and bought this little and inexpensive mint condition Canon lens in the UK: YH16x7 KRS, with Sony hot shoe contacts. Tested it and it appears to be quite sharp, except at apertures wider than 4. It shows quite some breathing, but surprising little CA. It's very light (not even 1 kg) and together with the lightest V-lock battery it makes a very comfortable lightweight combination for the PMW320.