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Cees van Kempen · April 17th, 2011, 01:41 PM

I use my EX with Nikon prime dslr lenses for wildlife filming. 80-200 F/2.8, 300 F/4 and 400 F/3.5. I would however like to work with a decent video zoomlens of up to let's say 300mm in order to make proper zooms. A larger zoom range will also make it easier to locate the subject and then zoom in for actual capturing. A 2/3" lens would be fine, so it will also keep its value when moving to a 2/3" camera. However, when looking at the quality zoom lenses of Canon and Fujinon I end up with prices equivalent of that of high end cars. Does anyone have a suggestion for a good quality video zoomlens of up to 300mm (or more) in the price range between 5,000-10,000 euros max?

Vincent Oliver · April 18th, 2011, 05:37 AM

You could try to locate a second hand lens, but I think you will get the best results (for the money) with the Nikon lenses you are using.

Alastair Traill · April 18th, 2011, 06:48 AM

Nikon used to make a 50-300 mm manual zoom which makes it a lot easier to find the subject than is the case for a 300 mm prime. I have one that would benefit from some lubrication and the results it produces can be quite good. However it is a heavy lens that I would not use without a support. They are still available second hand.

Vincent Oliver · April 18th, 2011, 07:06 AM

Lenses with a focal length of less than 85mm do not work that well on the EX3. The Sony stock lens at full magnification has roughly the same magnification as an 85mm Nikkor lens when fitted to the EX3.

The only exception to this, as far as I know, is the 55mm Micro-Nikkor lens. This lens is useful for extreme close up work.

Alan Emery · April 18th, 2011, 09:25 AM

Hi Cees,

I don't use an EX3 (1/2" sensor), but instead I use a Canon XLH1s (1/3" sensor).

I also use the 80-200 Nikon zoom, but in addition I use the Nikon 80-400 zoom. The Nikon lenses at medium to full extension work well at f numbers between f2.8 and f6.3. At higher f numbers the lenses become increasingly less sharp, even when racked back to 80mm. So a set of neutral density filters is important.

If I can get close to the subjects, I prefer to use the Canon stock lens because of the greater ability to follow focus especially if the animals are moving so as to increase or decrease the distance between themselves and the camera. If not, the huge reach of the Nikon zooms is worth the extra hassle.

I have used the Nikon 60macro lens for extreme close up. It is amazingly sharp, but even with the exaggerated telephoto effect, the distance to the subject is very short. I find the 80-200 zoom works very well on extension tubes for close-ups where you need a bit more separation between your camera and the subject.

Hope that helps,

Alan

Cees van Kempen · April 19th, 2011, 02:49 AM

Thanks for the input of all of you. My Nikon approach seems to be okay. I am surprised however that the ex3 comes with a reasonably good lens of up to about 80mm for an exceptional low price, and that there seems to be nothing like a good video zoom in the 80 - 300mm range. Not even for as much money as the whole ex3 with lens alltogether.

Cees van Kempen · May 7th, 2011, 12:56 PM

Doe anyone have experience with the Nikon 80-400mm on a EX3? I would like to know how it compares to the stock lens. I use a Nikon 80-200/2.8, a 300/4.0 and a 400/3.5. Would it meet the quality of these lenses. And finally, does someone have experience with the Nikon 200-400/4.0? Much more expensive than the 80-400, so I'd like to know if it pays back in superior image quality.

Cees van Kempen · April 25th, 2012, 03:41 AM

I want to give my question above another try. Anyone?

Luc De Wandel · April 25th, 2012, 05:40 AM

Hi Cees,

I do not have the 80-400 but a friend of mine with an EX3 has one. He uses it for wildlife videoshots, combined with the stock lens of the EX3 and the Nikon performs very well indeed. Of course,in full tele, it delivers less contrast than the Sony lens, but that is easily corrected in post. The only problem is that he has a hard time finding a tripod that is sturdy enough to use the lens at it's full tele focal length. Let's not forget that's the 35mm -equivalent of a 2000 mm lens approximately!

best
Luc

Alastair Traill · April 25th, 2012, 06:57 AM

Hi Cees,

Last time you asked this question I suggested trying one of the old manual Nikon 50-300 mm lenses. Did you ever try one and if so how did you rate it?

Cees van Kempen · April 26th, 2012, 04:41 AM

Luc,
thanks for the answer. So you basically say the 80-400 holds up well compared to the stock lens.

Alastair,
I did not manage to find or try a second hand 50-300 in Holland.

April 17th, 2011, 01:41 PM	#1
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	EX3 and tele zoomlens I use my EX with Nikon prime dslr lenses for wildlife filming. 80-200 F/2.8, 300 F/4 and 400 F/3.5. I would however like to work with a decent video zoomlens of up to let's say 300mm in order to make proper zooms. A larger zoom range will also make it easier to locate the subject and then zoom in for actual capturing. A 2/3" lens would be fine, so it will also keep its value when moving to a 2/3" camera. However, when looking at the quality zoom lenses of Canon and Fujinon I end up with prices equivalent of that of high end cars. Does anyone have a suggestion for a good quality video zoomlens of up to 300mm (or more) in the price range between 5,000-10,000 euros max?

April 18th, 2011, 05:37 AM	#2
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens You could try to locate a second hand lens, but I think you will get the best results (for the money) with the Nikon lenses you are using. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

April 18th, 2011, 06:48 AM	#3
Alastair Traill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 626	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Nikon used to make a 50-300 mm manual zoom which makes it a lot easier to find the subject than is the case for a 300 mm prime. I have one that would benefit from some lubrication and the results it produces can be quite good. However it is a heavy lens that I would not use without a support. They are still available second hand.

April 18th, 2011, 07:06 AM	#4
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Lenses with a focal length of less than 85mm do not work that well on the EX3. The Sony stock lens at full magnification has roughly the same magnification as an 85mm Nikkor lens when fitted to the EX3. The only exception to this, as far as I know, is the 55mm Micro-Nikkor lens. This lens is useful for extreme close up work. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

April 18th, 2011, 09:25 AM	#5
Alan Emery Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Janetville Ontario Canada Posts: 210	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Hi Cees, I don't use an EX3 (1/2" sensor), but instead I use a Canon XLH1s (1/3" sensor). I also use the 80-200 Nikon zoom, but in addition I use the Nikon 80-400 zoom. The Nikon lenses at medium to full extension work well at f numbers between f2.8 and f6.3. At higher f numbers the lenses become increasingly less sharp, even when racked back to 80mm. So a set of neutral density filters is important. If I can get close to the subjects, I prefer to use the Canon stock lens because of the greater ability to follow focus especially if the animals are moving so as to increase or decrease the distance between themselves and the camera. If not, the huge reach of the Nikon zooms is worth the extra hassle. I have used the Nikon 60macro lens for extreme close up. It is amazingly sharp, but even with the exaggerated telephoto effect, the distance to the subject is very short. I find the 80-200 zoom works very well on extension tubes for close-ups where you need a bit more separation between your camera and the subject. Hope that helps, Alan

April 19th, 2011, 02:49 AM	#6
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Thanks for the input of all of you. My Nikon approach seems to be okay. I am surprised however that the ex3 comes with a reasonably good lens of up to about 80mm for an exceptional low price, and that there seems to be nothing like a good video zoom in the 80 - 300mm range. Not even for as much money as the whole ex3 with lens alltogether.

May 7th, 2011, 12:56 PM	#7
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Doe anyone have experience with the Nikon 80-400mm on a EX3? I would like to know how it compares to the stock lens. I use a Nikon 80-200/2.8, a 300/4.0 and a 400/3.5. Would it meet the quality of these lenses. And finally, does someone have experience with the Nikon 200-400/4.0? Much more expensive than the 80-400, so I'd like to know if it pays back in superior image quality.

April 25th, 2012, 03:41 AM	#8
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens I want to give my question above another try. Anyone?

April 25th, 2012, 05:40 AM	#9
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Hi Cees, I do not have the 80-400 but a friend of mine with an EX3 has one. He uses it for wildlife videoshots, combined with the stock lens of the EX3 and the Nikon performs very well indeed. Of course,in full tele, it delivers less contrast than the Sony lens, but that is easily corrected in post. The only problem is that he has a hard time finding a tripod that is sturdy enough to use the lens at it's full tele focal length. Let's not forget that's the 35mm -equivalent of a 2000 mm lens approximately! best Luc

April 25th, 2012, 06:57 AM	#10
Alastair Traill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 626	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Hi Cees, Last time you asked this question I suggested trying one of the old manual Nikon 50-300 mm lenses. Did you ever try one and if so how did you rate it?

April 26th, 2012, 04:41 AM	#11
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: EX3 and tele zoomlens Luc, thanks for the answer. So you basically say the 80-400 holds up well compared to the stock lens. Alastair, I did not manage to find or try a second hand 50-300 in Holland.