Ipad as a field monitor? at DVinfo.net

Denny Kyser · February 2nd, 2011, 09:14 PM

I was watching a video on my iphone 4 and am amazed at how clear and sharp it is. It got me wondering if there is any way to use an Ipad which has the same quality display as a field monitor.

Sorry if its been covered before, but could not find it when searching.

Seems would just be a simple app and cable that would go from EX1 to ipad. Sure would make buying one easy.

Kevin Spahr · February 2nd, 2011, 10:05 PM

That would be sweet!

If it is possible it would be a good business to start. I would think some hardware would be needed to encode to h.264 on the fly because I doubt an iPad has the band width for full 1080 video.

Philip Howells · February 3rd, 2011, 03:20 AM

Denny, even if you have an iPad it would seem to me that a good sized monitor intended for the purpose would have tripod sockets etc and conectors ready would be a better bet. It would also be less "stealable". This last would be my main concern - ironically I bet hot iPads are easier to sell than even EX1s!

Our 7inch monitor clamps to the tripod head beside the camera, is robust in a metal case, takes composite and Y/C inputs and cost £70 on eBay.

Malcolm Hamilton · February 3rd, 2011, 08:35 AM

Philip, you're right, there are no doubt better field monitors (made just for the purpose), but I'm with Denny and Kevin on this one, because some of us already have an iPad (I actually got it for work reasons: I'm using it as part of a teleprompter set-up, and it works really well).
I'd love to avoid spending more money on a Marshall or whatever, if we can figure out how to make an iPad work.
Regards,
Malcolm

Denny Kyser · February 3rd, 2011, 09:23 AM

If it becomes possible, you can bet that there will be many mounting options, heck I would even love the option for the iphone 4, the display is just amazing.

I know there are better options, but if you do not have an Ipad or monitor and the ipad would work I bet many would buy the ipad. Although not the best choice for monitor, how many monitors can surf the net, show your portfolio, check emails etc.

Philip Howells · February 3rd, 2011, 09:28 AM

You see Denny, that's where I'm seriously challenged. I stand in awe of my younger colleagues who can make a presentation, answer their emails and shoot a programme at the same time! That's real multi-tasking. I josh of course!

Kevin Spahr · February 3rd, 2011, 03:46 PM

Sending the video via WiFi would really expand the usability of a system like this plus it would be a lot easier than going through Apple for a hard wired connection.

Here you go, I think I found it! All you need is money.

http://www.dvbgear.com/video_encoder...h_hd-sdi_input

Dano Motley · February 5th, 2011, 10:39 AM

Saw this at a recent nyc show. Its downfall is has an 8 second delay for live video. Teathered it is instant.

Dano

Kevin Spahr · February 5th, 2011, 10:51 AM

Wow, 8 second delay! I thought there would be some delay but not anything as long as 8 seconds.

The fact that $2000 would get you a nice monitor kinda puts this in the "very specialized" tool category anyways.

Walter Brokx · February 11th, 2011, 12:34 PM

I think I would prefer a monitor with an untouched screen...

Mitchell Lewis · February 19th, 2011, 08:51 AM

Teradek's Cube: Camera-Mounted Video Encoder

(quote from their home page)
*Latency measured by independent third party testers. iPad’s native video decoder adds approximately 10 seconds of latency. An RTP solution for iPad will be available shortly to eliminate the latency issue.

(I have no idea what RTP stands for)

Armando Accardo · February 21st, 2011, 02:21 AM

RTP might refer to the Real-Time-Protocol as used in many VoIP applications, meaning you send UDP data stream which are faster and real time when compared with TCP protocol data. But not reliable as TCP.

Regards,
Armando.

February 2nd, 2011, 09:14 PM	#1
Denny Kyser Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Warren, Pa Posts: 785	Ipad as a field monitor? I was watching a video on my iphone 4 and am amazed at how clear and sharp it is. It got me wondering if there is any way to use an Ipad which has the same quality display as a field monitor. Sorry if its been covered before, but could not find it when searching. Seems would just be a simple app and cable that would go from EX1 to ipad. Sure would make buying one easy. __________________ 2 Canon XF305's Kyser Photography www.kyserphoto.com

February 3rd, 2011, 09:23 AM	#5
Denny Kyser Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Warren, Pa Posts: 785	If it becomes possible, you can bet that there will be many mounting options, heck I would even love the option for the iphone 4, the display is just amazing. I know there are better options, but if you do not have an Ipad or monitor and the ipad would work I bet many would buy the ipad. Although not the best choice for monitor, how many monitors can surf the net, show your portfolio, check emails etc. __________________ 2 Canon XF305's Kyser Photography www.kyserphoto.com

February 3rd, 2011, 03:46 PM	#7
Kevin Spahr Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 451	Sending the video via WiFi would really expand the usability of a system like this plus it would be a lot easier than going through Apple for a hard wired connection. Here you go, I think I found it! All you need is money. http://www.dvbgear.com/video_encoder...h_hd-sdi_input Last edited by Kevin Spahr; February 3rd, 2011 at 04:06 PM. Reason: found a link

February 11th, 2011, 12:34 PM	#10
Walter Brokx Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maassluis, The Netherlands Posts: 294	I think I would prefer a monitor with an untouched screen... __________________ Brainstormnavigator searching for the hole in the sky..... Audiovisual Designer (NL) - http://www.brokxmedia.nl

February 19th, 2011, 08:51 AM	#11
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Teradek's Cube: Camera-Mounted Video Encoder (quote from their home page) *Latency measured by independent third party testers. iPad’s native video decoder adds approximately 10 seconds of latency. An RTP solution for iPad will be available shortly to eliminate the latency issue. (I have no idea what RTP stands for) __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

February 2nd, 2011, 10:05 PM	#2
Kevin Spahr Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 451	That would be sweet! If it is possible it would be a good business to start. I would think some hardware would be needed to encode to h.264 on the fly because I doubt an iPad has the band width for full 1080 video.

February 3rd, 2011, 03:20 AM	#3
Philip Howells Trustee Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 1,212	Denny, even if you have an iPad it would seem to me that a good sized monitor intended for the purpose would have tripod sockets etc and conectors ready would be a better bet. It would also be less "stealable". This last would be my main concern - ironically I bet hot iPads are easier to sell than even EX1s! Our 7inch monitor clamps to the tripod head beside the camera, is robust in a metal case, takes composite and Y/C inputs and cost £70 on eBay.

February 3rd, 2011, 08:35 AM	#4
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	Philip, you're right, there are no doubt better field monitors (made just for the purpose), but I'm with Denny and Kevin on this one, because some of us already have an iPad (I actually got it for work reasons: I'm using it as part of a teleprompter set-up, and it works really well). I'd love to avoid spending more money on a Marshall or whatever, if we can figure out how to make an iPad work. Regards, Malcolm

February 3rd, 2011, 09:28 AM	#6
Philip Howells Trustee Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 1,212	You see Denny, that's where I'm seriously challenged. I stand in awe of my younger colleagues who can make a presentation, answer their emails and shoot a programme at the same time! That's real multi-tasking. I josh of course!

February 5th, 2011, 10:39 AM	#8
Dano Motley Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Montclair New Jersey Posts: 101	Saw this at a recent nyc show. Its downfall is has an 8 second delay for live video. Teathered it is instant. Dano

February 5th, 2011, 10:51 AM	#9
Kevin Spahr Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 451	Wow, 8 second delay! I thought there would be some delay but not anything as long as 8 seconds. The fact that $2000 would get you a nice monitor kinda puts this in the "very specialized" tool category anyways.

February 21st, 2011, 02:21 AM	#12
Armando Accardo New Boot Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 8	Re: Ipad as a field monitor? RTP might refer to the Real-Time-Protocol as used in many VoIP applications, meaning you send UDP data stream which are faster and real time when compared with TCP protocol data. But not reliable as TCP. Regards, Armando.