seeking creative advice for music vid shoot at DVinfo.net

David Herman · November 29th, 2010, 12:00 PM

Time for creatives to come out of the shadows. EX-3 user, 2 weeks away from shooting a music video - 90% solo guitarist. Shooting in beautiful 14 century church, so magnificent row of stone arches to be subtly lit in background with shadows. Want to shoot something much like Bruce Springsteen Devils and dust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNz_...147B4&index=30

Simple as it appears, it is extremely well lit and etc. Other than begging, borrowing, stealing and/or maybe even buying a dslr for the job, does anyone have suggestions how to go about shooting the hands on the guitar and managing to have shallow enough dof to pull focus from one hand to the other?
Any suggestions for picture profiles for the ex3? a lens other than stock?
Will be doing multiple takes to playback and can of course alter lighting etc.

Robert Young · November 29th, 2010, 12:16 PM

If precise manipulation of a shallow DOF is a key item for this production, it's probably going to be best accomplished with a DSLR, or a Letus type adapter on the EX and 35mm SLR lenses.

Vincent Oliver · November 30th, 2010, 07:21 AM

Use a Nikon lens with an adaptimax lens mount, this will give you a nice shallow DOF and allow you some distance on your subject.

Duncan Craig · November 30th, 2010, 12:43 PM

It's a shame you're not nearer Leeds, you could borrow my Brevis.

Thomas Gregory · November 30th, 2010, 01:23 PM

Seems to me a basic cameraman's knowledge of his/her lense. Does the EX3 lense you are using have a macro? then problem solved. If not, increase the distance from the subject, and use the zoom. The further away you are, the more depth you have with the zoom. More experience with your own rig would solve this....practice!

David Herman · November 30th, 2010, 04:37 PM

Thanks for the contributions guys. Problem with the increase distance and zoom in, is that the angles involved if trying to rack focus between two hands on a guitar would require me to dig a hole for the lower hand and climb a ladder for the upper. I think (and don't believe me if I deny the lust for more toys) to buy a canon 60D and a 50mm prime lens. Oh dear. Maybe we need a new thread for how many excuses do we need to part with cash. and thanks for the offer Duncan, but how can one borrow a Christmas present to oneself?

November 29th, 2010, 12:00 PM	#1
David Herman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: gloucestershire uk Posts: 93	seeking creative advice for music vid shoot Time for creatives to come out of the shadows. EX-3 user, 2 weeks away from shooting a music video - 90% solo guitarist. Shooting in beautiful 14 century church, so magnificent row of stone arches to be subtly lit in background with shadows. Want to shoot something much like Bruce Springsteen Devils and dust http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNz_...147B4&index=30 Simple as it appears, it is extremely well lit and etc. Other than begging, borrowing, stealing and/or maybe even buying a dslr for the job, does anyone have suggestions how to go about shooting the hands on the guitar and managing to have shallow enough dof to pull focus from one hand to the other? Any suggestions for picture profiles for the ex3? a lens other than stock? Will be doing multiple takes to playback and can of course alter lighting etc.

November 29th, 2010, 12:16 PM	#2
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	If precise manipulation of a shallow DOF is a key item for this production, it's probably going to be best accomplished with a DSLR, or a Letus type adapter on the EX and 35mm SLR lenses. __________________ Bob

November 30th, 2010, 07:21 AM	#3
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Use a Nikon lens with an adaptimax lens mount, this will give you a nice shallow DOF and allow you some distance on your subject. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

November 30th, 2010, 12:43 PM	#4
Duncan Craig Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 660 Images: 10	It's a shame you're not nearer Leeds, you could borrow my Brevis. __________________ FCPX/LS300/EX1/FS100/GoPro/Vinten/HotHead/Jib/Track/Dedos/Lightstorm/Coollights

November 30th, 2010, 01:23 PM	#5
Thomas Gregory Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Posts: 33	Seems to me a basic cameraman's knowledge of his/her lense. Does the EX3 lense you are using have a macro? then problem solved. If not, increase the distance from the subject, and use the zoom. The further away you are, the more depth you have with the zoom. More experience with your own rig would solve this....practice! __________________ www.gregoryfilms.com (keep the faith....better yet, pass it on!)

November 30th, 2010, 04:37 PM	#6
David Herman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: gloucestershire uk Posts: 93	Thanks for the contributions guys. Problem with the increase distance and zoom in, is that the angles involved if trying to rack focus between two hands on a guitar would require me to dig a hole for the lower hand and climb a ladder for the upper. I think (and don't believe me if I deny the lust for more toys) to buy a canon 60D and a 50mm prime lens. Oh dear. Maybe we need a new thread for how many excuses do we need to part with cash. and thanks for the offer Duncan, but how can one borrow a Christmas present to oneself?