Cheaper alternative to Nano for EX1 ??

[Cees van Kempen]

Originally Posted by Olakunle Olanrewaju

The competition is getting interesting day by day. looking at this ninja at the moment the only thing i have agaist it is the name. I do not like chinese names(no apologies). but I might be picking one when the full details is out and real world test prove good.

Dear Olakunle,

I worked in Osogbo in the nineties on a World bank project (DHV Consultants). We had an Olakunle in our team. It doesn't happen to be you, I suppose?

Cees

[Olakunle Olanrewaju]

Is there any difference in japanese and chinese they all have 'nese' and that is the problem I have with their names lol

[Olakunle Olanrewaju]

Originally Posted by Cees van Kempen

Dear Olakunle,

I worked in Osogbo in the nineties on a World bank project (DHV Consultants). We had an Olakunle in our team. It doesn't happen to be you, I suppose?

Cees

No, though I was born near Osogbo and Schooled in Osogbo. It is nice to know you've been to Osogbo anyway we could hook-up any time you decide to come back visiting.

Olakunle

[Olakunle Olanrewaju]

I have noticed that for some time now the atmos site is working Enter The Ninja, what could be wrong? I don't think this is good for Business.

[Bob Grant]

Originally Posted by John Peterson

Well, I use Vegas which can't handle Pro-Res. The Aja units are geared toward FC Pro as well. Our choices are limited so the Nano seems like the only reliable choice if one wants to spend that much money for it. The Blackmagic Pro-Recorder sounds interesting, but there is no User Manual to download and no test reports I am aware of. Blackmagic says it is shipping this month (October).

John

I haven't tried it myself but based on the reports of many other Vegas users it reads ProRes just fine once you install the codec.

[Olakunle Olanrewaju]

Originally Posted by Olakunle Olanrewaju

I have noticed that for some time now the atmos site is working Enter The Ninja, what could be wrong? I don't think this is good for Business.

it is suppose to be
I have noticed that for some time now the atmos site is NOT working Enter The Ninja, what could be wrong? I don't think this is good for Business.

[Chris Paporakis]

Just checked and their website is still active ?

Have also sent them an Email Jim asking them to include an SDI input in the future, I suggest we send them a few queries about when the upgrade will take place :-)

[Jim Snow]

Good luck with sending emails. I sent one and received no response. When or if their product is released, be careful. Wait for some credible reviews before placing an order.

[Bo Skelmose]

I think I heard in a video somewhere that they where working on HD-SDI model - I am a buyer when it appears !!!

[Olakunle Olanrewaju]

Originally Posted by Chris Paporakis

Just checked and their website is still active ?

:-)

Just checked the website its still not working! I dont know how you are getting it to work or maybe my IP is blocked 'cos definately its not wroking from my end here.

[Perrone Ford]

Originally Posted by John Peterson

Well, I use Vegas which can't handle Pro-Res.

I've used ProRes for years on Vegas. Works fine.

Originally Posted by John Peterson

The Aja units are geared toward FC Pro as well.

True. But they still work for Premier, Avid, and Vegas.

Originally Posted by John Peterson

Our choices are limited so the Nano seems like the only reliable choice if one wants to spend that much money for it.

Your choices are limited to whatever you choose them to be. Others are doing every day, what say you cannot do.

[Vincent Rozenberg]

Originally Posted by John Peterson

The Blackmagic Pro-Recorder sounds interesting, but there is no User Manual to download and no test reports I am aware of. Blackmagic says it is shipping this month (October).

John

What recorder you mean?

[John Peterson]

Originally Posted by John Peterson View Post
The Blackmagic Pro-Recorder sounds interesting, but there is no User Manual to download and no test reports I am aware of. Blackmagic says it is shipping this month (October).

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What recorder you mean?
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This one:

Blackmagic Design: H.264 Pro Recorder

Only now it says it will ship in November instead of October.

John

[Barry J. Anwender]

[quote
This one:

Blackmagic Design: H.264 Pro Recorder

Only now it says it will ship in November instead of October.

John[/quote]


I finally queried BlackMagic on its intended deliver date as I have had this device on order from B&H since the beginning of June 2010. BlackMagic responded this week as follows:

"Barry,

Thank you for your interest in our products.

At this time, the Blackmagic Design, H.264 Pro Recorder is still considered
to be under development. Currently, the most up to date information I have
is that we are hoping to see this unit, production ready and shipping
sometime by the end of 2010/beginning of 2011 timeframe. However, because
this unit is still under development, ship time estimates are still subject
to change.

I have no information regarding any plans to replace this unit with an
updated version. Nor am I aware of any future feature additions which will
allow for the storage of captured material in the manner for which you are
looking.

It is highly doubtful at this time, that we would release a device that will
more closely suit the workflow you have described below.

Hope this information was helpful.

Richard T. Chao
Support Engineer
Blackmagic Design Inc. USA"

Needless to say, I have since cancelled my order. Given that another thread has been discussing the merits of ProRes vs. H.264 I am now leaning towards a ProRes solution. However, I refuse to purchase anything that uses Compact Flash cards. Toshiba is now manufacturing very thin and space saving SSD's with as much as 256GB of storage and a SATAII interface as used in the MacBook Air. Surely, AJA and/or Convergent will get the drift and abandon Compact Flash cards. If and when that happens, they will receive my consideration.

[Perrone Ford]

Originally Posted by Barry J. Anwender

However, I refuse to purchase anything that uses Compact Flash cards. Toshiba is now manufacturing very thin and space saving SSD's with as much as 256GB of storage and a SATAII interface as used in the MacBook Air. Surely, AJA and/or Convergent will get the drift and abandon Compact Flash cards. If and when that happens, they will receive my consideration.

You may be waiting a while. A significant part of professional workflow (which these units are aimed at) includes hand-off) as the shooter is often on contract, and does not get to take the tape/SDHC card/CF card home. To facilitate this common professional workflow, practically every modern pro or prosumer camera offers removable media.

The inability to do a footage handoff after shooting would likely preclude sales to most professional shooters because it means that they could not do a hand-off, and it means that any media issue would render the unit inoperable until it's fixed. That problem is solved on removable media by placing another card in the slot.

Maybe what you want will be developed. But I wouldn't bet on it.