Future EX1 firmware feature wish

Federico Perale · May 12th, 2010, 08:44 AM

more picture profiles (why just 6?) and more functions to assign to buttons

Colin Rowe · May 12th, 2010, 10:59 AM

6 is more than enough to confuse you, just give me a camera with a white balance switch, lol

Gints Klimanis · May 12th, 2010, 12:40 PM

I'd like to see an easy naming system for the white balance or possibly including any image to be associated with the WB. After the WB procedure, an option could be "Would you like to add a snapshot to identify the WB preset?"

Gints Klimanis · May 12th, 2010, 12:46 PM

I'd also like camcorders pick up some of the noise reduction options that are shipped in DSLR cameras such as the Nikon D90/D300s/D3s. Camcorders are seeing very small increases in image noise reduction at higher Gain values other than moving to larger sensors. DSLRs are delivering noise-free images up to ISO800 (gain = + 12 dB) on the D3. On the EX1, noise is pleasantly low but visible even on nearly middle-toned at + 6dB. The EX1 is by far an improvement over the Z1. I'd be willing to take a unit with double the battery weight if that is what is needed to do DLSR-class noise reduction at video frame rates.

Note. DSLRs present their recent gains in high-ISO performance as sensor improvements. An analysis of the Total SNR curves at DXO mark show a surprisingly small difference between a Nikon D3 and a D2X. DSLR manufacturers are making great improvements in their JPEG engines.

David C. Williams · May 13th, 2010, 06:50 AM

The noise is mostly blurred out on DSLRs. They resolve just over half the resolution of an EX. If you filtered an EX that much in post it would look noise free too. Also, +6DB is @ 800ISO on an EX. +12 would be 1600ISO.

Gints Klimanis · May 13th, 2010, 02:36 PM

Thanks, Dave. I didn't realize the base sensitivity of the EX1 was ISO800. Still, I'd like more and would prefer in-camera noise reduction that would lower the interframe compression load added by the noise at gains of +6 dB and more.

David C. Williams · May 13th, 2010, 08:43 PM

No mate, I meant the EX is 400. +6DB is one stop, for 800, +12 is 1600.

Pietro Jona · May 14th, 2010, 01:43 AM

I'd like:
-the possibility to record on two cards simultaneously (like one SXS and one sd, perfect backup if anything goes wrong with the second)
-the possibility to lock in the menu the audio levels (perfect for recording with external mixer: set the levels once, tone at -20 or whatever, and forget about checking every other minute that the control knobs didn't move during the shooting)

May 12th, 2010, 10:59 AM	#32
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	6 is more than enough to confuse you, just give me a camera with a white balance switch, lol __________________ Colin

May 13th, 2010, 06:50 AM	#35
David C. Williams Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: melb.vic.au Posts: 447	The noise is mostly blurred out on DSLRs. They resolve just over half the resolution of an EX. If you filtered an EX that much in post it would look noise free too. Also, +6DB is @ 800ISO on an EX. +12 would be 1600ISO. __________________ www.davidwilliams.com.au

May 13th, 2010, 08:43 PM	#37
David C. Williams Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: melb.vic.au Posts: 447	No mate, I meant the EX is 400. +6DB is one stop, for 800, +12 is 1600. __________________ www.davidwilliams.com.au

May 12th, 2010, 08:44 AM	#31
Federico Perale Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Posts: 410	more picture profiles (why just 6?) and more functions to assign to buttons

May 12th, 2010, 12:40 PM	#33
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	I'd like to see an easy naming system for the white balance or possibly including any image to be associated with the WB. After the WB procedure, an option could be "Would you like to add a snapshot to identify the WB preset?"

May 12th, 2010, 12:46 PM	#34
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	I'd also like camcorders pick up some of the noise reduction options that are shipped in DSLR cameras such as the Nikon D90/D300s/D3s. Camcorders are seeing very small increases in image noise reduction at higher Gain values other than moving to larger sensors. DSLRs are delivering noise-free images up to ISO800 (gain = + 12 dB) on the D3. On the EX1, noise is pleasantly low but visible even on nearly middle-toned at + 6dB. The EX1 is by far an improvement over the Z1. I'd be willing to take a unit with double the battery weight if that is what is needed to do DLSR-class noise reduction at video frame rates. Note. DSLRs present their recent gains in high-ISO performance as sensor improvements. An analysis of the Total SNR curves at DXO mark show a surprisingly small difference between a Nikon D3 and a D2X. DSLR manufacturers are making great improvements in their JPEG engines.

May 13th, 2010, 02:36 PM	#36
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Thanks, Dave. I didn't realize the base sensitivity of the EX1 was ISO800. Still, I'd like more and would prefer in-camera noise reduction that would lower the interframe compression load added by the noise at gains of +6 dB and more.

May 14th, 2010, 01:43 AM	#38
Pietro Jona Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: italy Posts: 172	I'd like: -the possibility to record on two cards simultaneously (like one SXS and one sd, perfect backup if anything goes wrong with the second) -the possibility to lock in the menu the audio levels (perfect for recording with external mixer: set the levels once, tone at -20 or whatever, and forget about checking every other minute that the control knobs didn't move during the shooting)