Made a Boo Boo

L.J. Morelli · March 21st, 2010, 10:13 PM

Did a 2 camera shoot with my ex-1's.
Cam #1 was 1080, 24p HQ
Cam #2 was 1080, 60i SP

I need cam 2 to work in the time line w/ cam 1 (Final Cut Pro)

I'm sure I can never get cam 2 to look like cam 1, maybe if I deinterlace, but it's not that important. But can I export cam 2 footage to a different format out of the timeline to match
the frame rate, etc of cam 1? If so, do I just use the EX settings in my Quicktime drop down menu in FCP? Thank you.

Dean Sensui · March 21st, 2010, 11:02 PM

See if you can get Compressor to change one to the other's format.

Maybe go from 60i to 24?

Compressor can do a batch process which will lighten your workload.

Shaun Roemich · March 21st, 2010, 11:07 PM

Have you TRIED dropping camera two's footage into a timeline with the same settings as camera one? Making 60i footage INTO 24P by placing it in a 24P timeline imparts at least most of the motion characteristics but the clarity is probably lost forever.

Tim Kolb · March 22nd, 2010, 06:39 AM

Magic Bullet Frames would likely be able to convert the 60i stuff to 24p pretty well, but I don't know if it would look exactly the same aesthetically.

I assume it's a long duration shoot?

I might try to layout one camera (maybe the 24p camera) on a proper timeline and the other camera on it's timeline and determine what you'll actually need in the edit and convert only that which is required for the program.

Olof Ekbergh · March 22nd, 2010, 10:45 AM

What is your final delivery method?

Very different recommendations depending on final format.

Like WEB Flash/QT or whatever, SD-DVD, Broadcast NTSC/PAL, hopefully not HD.

They are all possible. With AE you can do pulldown or de-interlace, very nicely.

Tom Roper · March 22nd, 2010, 11:06 AM

With Vegas, you would put them both on the same timeline. If the project properties are set to match camera 1, (24p), the clips from camera 2 will be converted to 24p

Matt Davis · March 22nd, 2010, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.J. Morelli

maybe if I deinterlace

Well, the biggest thing was the 24p/60i thing I guess.

I used to get great results using DVfilm's Maker app, which IIRC specifically does the 60i to 24p thing as well as being a classy deinterlacer (only deinterlacing stuff that moves) for HDV.

DVFilm - Digital to Film Transfers, Raylight Software for Desktop HD editing

Maybe worth a punt.

March 21st, 2010, 11:07 PM	#3
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Have you TRIED dropping camera two's footage into a timeline with the same settings as camera one? Making 60i footage INTO 24P by placing it in a 24P timeline imparts at least most of the motion characteristics but the clarity is probably lost forever. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

March 22nd, 2010, 06:39 AM	#4
Tim Kolb Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Neenah, WI Posts: 547	Magic Bullet Frames would likely be able to convert the 60i stuff to 24p pretty well, but I don't know if it would look exactly the same aesthetically. I assume it's a long duration shoot? I might try to layout one camera (maybe the 24p camera) on a proper timeline and the other camera on it's timeline and determine what you'll actually need in the edit and convert only that which is required for the program. __________________ TimK Kolb Productions

March 21st, 2010, 10:13 PM	#1
L.J. Morelli Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hicksville, NY Posts: 122	Made a Boo Boo - Smart People Please Read Did a 2 camera shoot with my ex-1's. Cam #1 was 1080, 24p HQ Cam #2 was 1080, 60i SP I need cam 2 to work in the time line w/ cam 1 (Final Cut Pro) I'm sure I can never get cam 2 to look like cam 1, maybe if I deinterlace, but it's not that important. But can I export cam 2 footage to a different format out of the timeline to match the frame rate, etc of cam 1? If so, do I just use the EX settings in my Quicktime drop down menu in FCP? Thank you.

March 21st, 2010, 11:02 PM	#2
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	See if you can get Compressor to change one to the other's format. Maybe go from 60i to 24? Compressor can do a batch process which will lighten your workload. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

March 22nd, 2010, 10:45 AM	#5
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	What is your final delivery method? Very different recommendations depending on final format. Like WEB Flash/QT or whatever, SD-DVD, Broadcast NTSC/PAL, hopefully not HD. They are all possible. With AE you can do pulldown or de-interlace, very nicely.

March 22nd, 2010, 11:06 AM	#6
Tom Roper Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,891	With Vegas, you would put them both on the same timeline. If the project properties are set to match camera 1, (24p), the clips from camera 2 will be converted to 24p