EX & Premiere CS4

Ed Kukla · February 28th, 2010, 04:02 PM

Steve

I've noticed that you can see the assigned names in the preview window. But how is that useful?

At the start of a project, I'll have 50 to 100 clips in the clip bin. I'd like to knowsomething about those clips as they sit in the bin. If PP showed the names I give them in Sony Clip Borwser it would be easy. Scroll down to the clip you want and drop it into the preview window.

as it stands now, it's a huge guessing game...unless I use mxf for nle.

At this point I will create one copy to a HD with the BPAV folders and a second copy with mxf for nle

Vincent Oliver · February 28th, 2010, 05:19 PM

Steve, thanks for the tip. I was aware that you can preview the EX files in the source window, but this means having to open each file in turn to see the content. Clip Browser gives you the thumbnail previews, which Premiere doesn't. However, to see a playback of a clip in Clip Browser you do have to open it in the CB preview window.

Steve Kalle · February 28th, 2010, 06:25 PM

Vincent, in Premiere's Project window, you can select Small, Medium & Large Thumbnail to display to the left of the file. Also, when you click on a file, there is a small window at the top of the Project window that allows you to quickly play it.

Ed, the "Clip Bin" you are referring to is what - the "Media Browser"?

Vincent Oliver · March 1st, 2010, 04:28 AM

Steve,

Thanks for that tip. I generally just tend to use Media Browser to bring in clips to the project. The project window is nearly always set to List View.

What I would like is being able to preview the EX files, or see as thumbnails, in Media Browser before adding them to a project. At them moment I can only preveiw the files in Clip Browser. Once in a Premiere project I can see the clips as you suggest. Maybe the anser is to bring in all the clips and then remove the ones that are not needed.

Ed Kukla · March 1st, 2010, 07:19 PM

Steve

Yes, Media Browser. Don't know where I got clip bin. Sorry.

I do like the thumbnail in projects list. But that is later in the process. I'm like Vincent, when I first start looking at a hard drive, all I see is numbers in Media Browser. I want to see the names I gave the clips in Clip Browser.

Doug Jensen · March 1st, 2010, 08:08 PM

Ed, as I said before, I know nothing about Premiere, so I'm wondering why you are renaming clips in Clip Browser? That is certainly not a workflow I'd ever recommend for Final Cut Pro or Vegas.

I name my clips within the camera, when they are shot, and I'd never, ever think of renaming after that. That name is like a serial number that will always be unique to that clips in all of its MOV, MP4, and MXF variations. I want my BPAV archives and my MOV converted files to always have the same name.

Why do you rename clips?

Ed Kukla · March 1st, 2010, 08:13 PM

Sorry Doug I wasn't clear...I add TITLES in the meta data that Clip Browser provides. You can add titles and descriptions there. I'd like that title to show up in the Media Browser of PP.

I really jacked up all my descriptions on this one, eh?

Vincent Oliver · March 2nd, 2010, 01:06 AM

Ed the better workflow would be to use the Media Browser to add all your working clips clips into a Project Bin, from here you can preview each clip as a thumbnail and also view a live preview (top left hand corner). Now simply remove/delete the unwanted clips from your project.

The deleted clips still remain on your hard drive, you have only removed them from your project. Like Doug, I always give a unique name to my files in camera, that way I know what job they are associated with before looking at any preview.

There are many ways of working with video, some people prefer one method over another, but what ever works for you should be OK. We are always tweaking our own workflows and probably will do so until we cease to be videographers.

Ed Kukla · March 2nd, 2010, 06:07 AM

Vincent

That is a very good workaround.
Thanks

Ed

Vincent Oliver · March 2nd, 2010, 06:45 AM

Glad it was of use to you. I also meant to mention that you can rename your clips in the Project thumbnails, the new name will only appear in your project, the original clips retain their default clip names. But if you can see the previews then I don't see why you would want to rename the clips.

February 28th, 2010, 05:19 PM	#32
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Steve, thanks for the tip. I was aware that you can preview the EX files in the source window, but this means having to open each file in turn to see the content. Clip Browser gives you the thumbnail previews, which Premiere doesn't. However, to see a playback of a clip in Clip Browser you do have to open it in the CB preview window. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

March 1st, 2010, 04:28 AM	#34
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Steve, Thanks for that tip. I generally just tend to use Media Browser to bring in clips to the project. The project window is nearly always set to List View. What I would like is being able to preview the EX files, or see as thumbnails, in Media Browser before adding them to a project. At them moment I can only preveiw the files in Clip Browser. Once in a Premiere project I can see the clips as you suggest. Maybe the anser is to bring in all the clips and then remove the ones that are not needed. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

March 1st, 2010, 08:08 PM	#36
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Ed, as I said before, I know nothing about Premiere, so I'm wondering why you are renaming clips in Clip Browser? That is certainly not a workflow I'd ever recommend for Final Cut Pro or Vegas. I name my clips within the camera, when they are shot, and I'd never, ever think of renaming after that. That name is like a serial number that will always be unique to that clips in all of its MOV, MP4, and MXF variations. I want my BPAV archives and my MOV converted files to always have the same name. Why do you rename clips? __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

March 2nd, 2010, 01:06 AM	#38
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Ed the better workflow would be to use the Media Browser to add all your working clips clips into a Project Bin, from here you can preview each clip as a thumbnail and also view a live preview (top left hand corner). Now simply remove/delete the unwanted clips from your project. The deleted clips still remain on your hard drive, you have only removed them from your project. Like Doug, I always give a unique name to my files in camera, that way I know what job they are associated with before looking at any preview. There are many ways of working with video, some people prefer one method over another, but what ever works for you should be OK. We are always tweaking our own workflows and probably will do so until we cease to be videographers. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

March 2nd, 2010, 06:45 AM	#40
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Glad it was of use to you. I also meant to mention that you can rename your clips in the Project thumbnails, the new name will only appear in your project, the original clips retain their default clip names. But if you can see the previews then I don't see why you would want to rename the clips. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

February 28th, 2010, 04:02 PM	#31
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	Steve I've noticed that you can see the assigned names in the preview window. But how is that useful? At the start of a project, I'll have 50 to 100 clips in the clip bin. I'd like to knowsomething about those clips as they sit in the bin. If PP showed the names I give them in Sony Clip Borwser it would be easy. Scroll down to the clip you want and drop it into the preview window. as it stands now, it's a huge guessing game...unless I use mxf for nle. At this point I will create one copy to a HD with the BPAV folders and a second copy with mxf for nle

February 28th, 2010, 06:25 PM	#33
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Vincent, in Premiere's Project window, you can select Small, Medium & Large Thumbnail to display to the left of the file. Also, when you click on a file, there is a small window at the top of the Project window that allows you to quickly play it. Ed, the "Clip Bin" you are referring to is what - the "Media Browser"?

March 1st, 2010, 07:19 PM	#35
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	Steve Yes, Media Browser. Don't know where I got clip bin. Sorry. I do like the thumbnail in projects list. But that is later in the process. I'm like Vincent, when I first start looking at a hard drive, all I see is numbers in Media Browser. I want to see the names I gave the clips in Clip Browser.

March 1st, 2010, 08:13 PM	#37
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	Sorry Doug I wasn't clear...I add TITLES in the meta data that Clip Browser provides. You can add titles and descriptions there. I'd like that title to show up in the Media Browser of PP. I really jacked up all my descriptions on this one, eh?

March 2nd, 2010, 06:07 AM	#39
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	Vincent That is a very good workaround. Thanks Ed