Reformat or delete all clips? at DVinfo.net

Kent Beeson · January 10th, 2010, 10:38 PM

So it's best for the card to reformat or delete all clips to get a truly "clean" card after dumping all clips to a hard drive?
Thanks
K

Marty Welk · January 10th, 2010, 10:42 PM

a reformat is not a wipe, a delete doesnt use a trashcan , so it doesnt make that much differance :-)
the suggestion has always been to use delete all clips.
deleting all CLIPS will not wipe out everything on the card. like say you have a profile or settings stored on the card, you will really tick sombody off if you format the card they have 10 hours of worked out profiles stored on :-)

also on the EX1r deleting all clips when showing only certain resolutions of clips, will not delete all, only the ones your working with and seeing at that time. so that could make a difference in what you chose, and what you lose.

William Graydon · January 10th, 2010, 10:49 PM

Doug Jensen from Vortex media just released an update video for the ex1r and I remember him saying that he prefers to use delete all clips. I have been using the delete all clips since I received my ex1r.

Aaron Fowler · January 10th, 2010, 11:06 PM

I used to delete all clips but after a while I found that my max recording time on my 8GB card became reduced and I was missing out on almost 10 minutes worth of footage off the card. After reformatting the card it increased from a max recording time from 20 minutes to 28 minutes.

After that I've always used the reformat option and haven't had a problem.

Marty Welk · January 10th, 2010, 11:34 PM

could it have anything to do with "OK" clips? or other markings, if i remember right you have to work a little harder to delete clips that you specifically marked.
(and that should be pointed out somewhere too)

Aaron Fowler · January 11th, 2010, 12:03 AM

I don't mark clips in camera, never have, I wait for post production before I mark any of my clips. I don't keep any Picture Profiles stored on my cards or anything other than clips I shoot. I don't know what the issue was, or even if it was reoccurring... All I know is that I haven't had to deal with this issue since I started using the reformat option.

Marty Welk · January 11th, 2010, 12:09 AM

And i too would lean to that side, of wanting to shift the keepers like profiles and settings, and do a full format, no guessing or hoping. then put the keepers back on the card.
having even a few minutes of missing space for a long shoot could mean using another $$$ chip for little to no reason , or it splitting to another for no reason.
while they handle the split to other media well, i dont see giving a machine another opertunity to do something that might not work well in all situations.

Doug Jensen · January 11th, 2010, 06:56 AM

I have couple of cards that haven't been re-formatted in over a year, and they still provide me full capacity. I prefer to delete all clips because it keeps my camera data file intact and doesn't rename the card to "untitled". All my cards have custom names so I know which one I'm looking at on my computer, and I don't like to lose the names.

Doug

January 10th, 2010, 10:38 PM	#1
Kent Beeson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: West Texas Posts: 266	Reformat or delete all clips? So it's best for the card to reformat or delete all clips to get a truly "clean" card after dumping all clips to a hard drive? Thanks K

January 10th, 2010, 10:42 PM	#2
Marty Welk Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Bay Cali Posts: 563	a reformat is not a wipe, a delete doesnt use a trashcan , so it doesnt make that much differance :-) the suggestion has always been to use delete all clips. deleting all CLIPS will not wipe out everything on the card. like say you have a profile or settings stored on the card, you will really tick sombody off if you format the card they have 10 hours of worked out profiles stored on :-) also on the EX1r deleting all clips when showing only certain resolutions of clips, will not delete all, only the ones your working with and seeing at that time. so that could make a difference in what you chose, and what you lose. __________________ ----------------sig----------------- Re-learning everything all over again, one more time.

January 10th, 2010, 11:06 PM	#4
Aaron Fowler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 129	I used to delete all clips but after a while I found that my max recording time on my 8GB card became reduced and I was missing out on almost 10 minutes worth of footage off the card. After reformatting the card it increased from a max recording time from 20 minutes to 28 minutes. After that I've always used the reformat option and haven't had a problem. __________________ Aaron Fowler PMW-EX1 / EOS 60D / EOS 550D / FCS2 / CS4 PP

January 10th, 2010, 11:34 PM	#5
Marty Welk Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Bay Cali Posts: 563	could it have anything to do with "OK" clips? or other markings, if i remember right you have to work a little harder to delete clips that you specifically marked. (and that should be pointed out somewhere too) __________________ ----------------sig----------------- Re-learning everything all over again, one more time.

January 11th, 2010, 12:03 AM	#6
Aaron Fowler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 129	I don't mark clips in camera, never have, I wait for post production before I mark any of my clips. I don't keep any Picture Profiles stored on my cards or anything other than clips I shoot. I don't know what the issue was, or even if it was reoccurring... All I know is that I haven't had to deal with this issue since I started using the reformat option. __________________ Aaron Fowler PMW-EX1 / EOS 60D / EOS 550D / FCS2 / CS4 PP

January 10th, 2010, 10:49 PM	#3
William Graydon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 75	Doug Jensen from Vortex media just released an update video for the ex1r and I remember him saying that he prefers to use delete all clips. I have been using the delete all clips since I received my ex1r.

January 11th, 2010, 12:09 AM	#7
Marty Welk Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Bay Cali Posts: 563	And i too would lean to that side, of wanting to shift the keepers like profiles and settings, and do a full format, no guessing or hoping. then put the keepers back on the card. having even a few minutes of missing space for a long shoot could mean using another $$$ chip for little to no reason , or it splitting to another for no reason. while they handle the split to other media well, i dont see giving a machine another opertunity to do something that might not work well in all situations. __________________ ----------------sig----------------- Re-learning everything all over again, one more time.

January 11th, 2010, 06:56 AM	#8
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,442	I have couple of cards that haven't been re-formatted in over a year, and they still provide me full capacity. I prefer to delete all clips because it keeps my camera data file intact and doesn't rename the card to "untitled". All my cards have custom names so I know which one I'm looking at on my computer, and I don't like to lose the names. Doug __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools