what do you want in next gen EX1? at DVinfo.net

Gints Klimanis · December 23rd, 2009, 09:19 PM

Or more like, what it would take for me to buy a new EX1-EX3 class model :

1) Sensors with an additional 1-2 stops of sensitivity to shoot noise-free at +6 or +12 dB gain
2) 1080p60 and possibly formats with higher frame rates such as 720p120
3) Selectable bitrate recording at 35-140 MBps with 4:2:0 or 4:2:2 downsampling

Nice to see:
1) CF card interface to allow 45-90 MBytes/second Sandisk cards
2) Superior Viewfinder and larger, higher rez LCD
3) Better metering modes, such as 2D color map with 1/3 stop tones
4) Crop mode for digital zoom on 720p formats
5) Uncompressed 4:4:4 time lapse mode with images stored as PNG

Matt Davis · December 24th, 2009, 01:07 PM

The first thing I really want to see is a 50 Mbps codec - there's a certain sniffiness in the Broadcast sector that "whilst the EX line is very good and very nice - charming, in fact, it's not quite 'Broadcast'" and that 50 Mbps is the line in the sand. Of course, I could just bolt on a NanoFlash (as many do), but all the same - there's that 4:2:2 50 Mbps codec hanging around in the bigger line... And that may be the divide between SxS and SDHC (grins, ducks and runs).

A switch-off-able limiter on the audio? (Haven't tested that on the EX1R yet, but it is Xmas). Some extra pad and gain for the line input would be handy (the concept of Line Level is somewhat variable in the conference and event world).

I do like your timelapse in PNG idea, and we'll always want more sensitivity.

Dean Sensui · December 24th, 2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Daviss

The first thing I really want to see is a 50 Mbps codec - there's a certain sniffiness in the Broadcast sector that "whilst the EX line is very good and very nice - charming, in fact, it's not quite 'Broadcast'" and that 50 Mbps is the line in the sand.

Are they nuts? The EX1 provides a great image.

I wonder if these people could notice the difference when watching on an HDTV in someone's home. Because that's where it really matters.

Jad Meouchy · December 25th, 2009, 01:16 AM

alright here's the secret everyone...

1. shoot on an EX1
2. transcode to XDCAM HD for delivery (or whatever is the broadcast format)
3. if anyone asks, you shot on an f355

done, secret revealed

Eddie Coates · December 25th, 2009, 01:21 AM

I would like for the EX1 to auto focus as fast and accurate as the Canon cameras.

I love the quality of my EX1 except the focus issues and the poor unwanted green tint under flor lights.

Bruce Rawlings · December 25th, 2009, 04:23 AM

Happy Christmas all. I think the BBC's sniffiness is due to their distribution chain - other broadcasters have different systems that do not add too many artifacts to the material.

December 23rd, 2009, 09:19 PM	#1
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	what do you want in next gen EX1? Or more like, what it would take for me to buy a new EX1-EX3 class model : 1) Sensors with an additional 1-2 stops of sensitivity to shoot noise-free at +6 or +12 dB gain 2) 1080p60 and possibly formats with higher frame rates such as 720p120 3) Selectable bitrate recording at 35-140 MBps with 4:2:0 or 4:2:2 downsampling Nice to see: 1) CF card interface to allow 45-90 MBytes/second Sandisk cards 2) Superior Viewfinder and larger, higher rez LCD 3) Better metering modes, such as 2D color map with 1/3 stop tones 4) Crop mode for digital zoom on 720p formats 5) Uncompressed 4:4:4 time lapse mode with images stored as PNG

December 24th, 2009, 01:07 PM	#2
Matt Davis Trustee Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,562	The first thing I really want to see is a 50 Mbps codec - there's a certain sniffiness in the Broadcast sector that "whilst the EX line is very good and very nice - charming, in fact, it's not quite 'Broadcast'" and that 50 Mbps is the line in the sand. Of course, I could just bolt on a NanoFlash (as many do), but all the same - there's that 4:2:2 50 Mbps codec hanging around in the bigger line... And that may be the divide between SxS and SDHC (grins, ducks and runs). A switch-off-able limiter on the audio? (Haven't tested that on the EX1R yet, but it is Xmas). Some extra pad and gain for the line input would be handy (the concept of Line Level is somewhat variable in the conference and event world). I do like your timelapse in PNG idea, and we'll always want more sensitivity. __________________ Director/Editor - MDMA Ltd: Write, Shoot, Edit, Publish - mattdavis.pro EX1 x2, C100 --> FCPX & PPro6

December 25th, 2009, 01:16 AM	#4
Jad Meouchy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 663	alright here's the secret everyone... 1. shoot on an EX1 2. transcode to XDCAM HD for delivery (or whatever is the broadcast format) 3. if anyone asks, you shot on an f355 done, secret revealed __________________ software engineer

December 25th, 2009, 01:21 AM	#5
Eddie Coates Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 58	I would like for the EX1 to auto focus as fast and accurate as the Canon cameras. I love the quality of my EX1 except the focus issues and the poor unwanted green tint under flor lights. __________________ SONY EX1, (Vista Ultimate 64bit, i-7 core processor, 12gigs of DDR3, ATI 5870 GPU Adobe CS4) Canon 5DMkII and Canon 7D 70-200mm 2.8L IS, Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 XR Di

December 25th, 2009, 04:23 AM	#6
Bruce Rawlings Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK Posts: 410	Happy Christmas all. I think the BBC's sniffiness is due to their distribution chain - other broadcasters have different systems that do not add too many artifacts to the material.