EX1 - EX3 Firmware updates coming end Feb.

Paul Inglis · December 27th, 2009, 05:34 AM

I for one am looking forward to the day when I can up date my own firmware as it takes far too long for Sony to do it. Not too mention the shipping that would be involved for me :(

Why couldn't Sony make it simple to update their firmware? The nanoFLASH is really simple and so could the Sony EX range have been!

Michael B. McGee · December 27th, 2009, 11:48 AM

i can't confirm this, but i've heard that ever since RED started allowing their owners to upgrade firmware(Builds) companies like Canon and Panasonic have been following their lead. I just hope Sony is paying attention. it's extremely impractical, in this technically advanced world for Sony to demand its owners to send in their products for something WE can easily do in the comfort on our own homes/offices.

Dave Morrison · December 28th, 2009, 05:18 PM

It's especially galling when they make it so easy to update firmware on, for instance, their own BluRay players. I bought a cheap, entry-level Sony BR player (360), hooked up the ethernet cable and the first thing it did was phone home and do a firmware update without any intervention on my part. I realize that with the EX-x cameras, we're talking about an order of magnitude more complexity, but come on Sony.

Jason Bodnar · December 30th, 2009, 04:41 PM

Fed Ex just delivered My camera back from LA Service Center after repairs... Was loaded with latest firmware V1.14_0543 updated on 12/21/09. Probably another version still coming for Feb/Mar

Michael B. McGee · December 30th, 2009, 05:00 PM

i have v.1.11_0531

wonder what the differences are?

Paul Kellett · December 30th, 2009, 05:58 PM

I have version 1.14.
I previously had V1.11, and my lens when faulty, lens gets replaced under warranty, and i'm told even though the lens looks the same it's not, it's modified inside, (these are words direct from the technicians mouth, i take my camera to the sony service centre personally), when i get home and plug in my Libec controller the lens creep zooms in on it's own so i'm told that i need the latest firmware V1.14.
The newer lens NEEDS V1.14 for it to work correctly with the Libec controller.
So there's one thing that V1.14 changes.
According to clip browser with it's new display, the newer lens is a different model than the old lens, i checked against old footage of mine.

Paul.

Andy Shipsides · December 30th, 2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael B. McGee

i can't confirm this, but i've heard that ever since RED started allowing their owners to upgrade firmware(Builds) companies like Canon and Panasonic have been following their lead. I just hope Sony is paying attention. it's extremely impractical, in this technically advanced world for Sony to demand its owners to send in their products for something WE can easily do in the comfort on our own homes/offices.

Panasonic & Sony have been offering firmware updates on different cameras for a long time now, well before the RED One was released. All the P2 cameras, XDCAM cameras, and HDCAM cameras have downloads available for updates. Sony does have a history of not offering this on their small HD cameras though, and I agree that EX owners should get the option. I have seen up to firmware 1.15 on a EX1. Can't wait to get all of our cameras up to the same version.

Michael B. McGee · December 30th, 2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Kellett

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According to clip browser with it's new display, the newer lens is a different model than the old lens, i checked against old footage of mine.
Paul.

what is your New lens model number?

Michael B. McGee · December 30th, 2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Shipsides

...I have seen up to firmware 1.15 on a EX1. Can't wait to get all of our cameras up to the same version.

does anyone have a link to these newer firmware updates, ie: v.1.14 or even v.1.15? feel free to IM me if you're concerned about feeling unscrupulous.

-Mike

Paul Kellett · December 31st, 2009, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael B. McGee

what is your New lens model number?

New lens model > XT14X5.8AS-X8C

Old lens model > XT14X5.8

Paul.

Marcus Durham · December 31st, 2009, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Morrison

It's especially galling when they make it so easy to update firmware on, for instance, their own BluRay players. I bought a cheap, entry-level Sony BR player (360), hooked up the ethernet cable and the first thing it did was phone home and do a firmware update without any intervention on my part. I realize that with the EX-x cameras, we're talking about an order of magnitude more complexity, but come on Sony.

It's in Sony's interest to have their Blu-Ray players phone home. If people manage to bypass the copy protection etc, Sony can just issue a patch.

You may think as a consumer its pretty cool for the player to be able to update but let me assure you its entirely to Sony's benefit.

Michael B. McGee · December 31st, 2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Kellett

New lens model > XT14X5.8AS-X8C
Old lens model > XT14X5.8
Paul.

that seems to be the "common" replacement lens. others have mentioned having that lens after sending their cameras in for repair.

Paul, you mentioned that replacing the lens was under "warranty". was your warranty current or had it expired and Sony deemed it a warranty, their responsibility, issue. my initial "1 year warranty" has expired. without having to purchase an extended warranty, i hope i can get my lens replaced compliments on Sony of course.

Jason Bodnar · December 31st, 2009, 07:30 PM

When I spoke to the LA service center Manager he told me he was not aware of a new lens but did say any replacement lens ordered could have some changes, but he was not aware of any. Now I am still trying to verify what all was actually repaired on my camera... I was told the prism block was replaced but the paper work just says the camera was fixed under warranty. I will compare footage shot before the repair with new footage in clip browser and see if there is any difference on the lens but I do not think they replaced my Lens as part of the repair.

Update- I still have the old lens model... XT14x5.8.. guess there was no need to replace it... Hope that does not mean I may have to replace it at some point in the future...

Barry J. Anwender · February 26th, 2010, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

I have been informed that there will be firmware updates for the EX1 and EX3 arround the end of Feb to allow the use of the new SxS-1 cards and the MEAD-MS01 memory stick adapter.

I believe that this will be a user update (at own risk).

Today is the last business day in Feb 2010 and sadly no news or anything tangible to indicate that Sony will deliver the said firmware updates. It is a good thing we aren't holding our breath for these much desired updates. Better late than never would still be nice :-)

Ed Przyzycki · February 26th, 2010, 07:24 PM

I attended a Sony "educational" seminar on the EX line last Wednesday. It's definitely coming. They wouldn't commit to an exact date, but we were told "early spring".

From their website:
Sony Product Detail Page - SBS32G1
The SxS-1 memory card will initially be compatible with only the new XDCAM EX camcorder models PMW-EX1R, PMW-350L and PMW-350K. In the case of PMW-EX1/EX3/10MD, an end user firmware upgrade, scheduled for release in the Spring of 2010, will be required and can be downloaded from the Sony Pro Media website when available. Users that own an PMW-EX30 must send their deck to a Sony Service center to complete the required firmware updates.

December 28th, 2009, 05:18 PM	#18
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	It's especially galling when they make it so easy to update firmware on, for instance, their own BluRay players. I bought a cheap, entry-level Sony BR player (360), hooked up the ethernet cable and the first thing it did was phone home and do a firmware update without any intervention on my part. I realize that with the EX-x cameras, we're talking about an order of magnitude more complexity, but come on Sony. __________________ EX1, Nikon D750 http://www.morrisonphotographics.com http://www.heritagefilm.com

December 30th, 2009, 05:58 PM	#21
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	I have version 1.14. I previously had V1.11, and my lens when faulty, lens gets replaced under warranty, and i'm told even though the lens looks the same it's not, it's modified inside, (these are words direct from the technicians mouth, i take my camera to the sony service centre personally), when i get home and plug in my Libec controller the lens creep zooms in on it's own so i'm told that i need the latest firmware V1.14. The newer lens NEEDS V1.14 for it to work correctly with the Libec controller. So there's one thing that V1.14 changes. According to clip browser with it's new display, the newer lens is a different model than the old lens, i checked against old footage of mine. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

December 27th, 2009, 05:34 AM	#16
Paul Inglis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: British Isles Posts: 415	I for one am looking forward to the day when I can up date my own firmware as it takes far too long for Sony to do it. Not too mention the shipping that would be involved for me :( Why couldn't Sony make it simple to update their firmware? The nanoFLASH is really simple and so could the Sony EX range have been!

December 27th, 2009, 11:48 AM	#17
Michael B. McGee Major Player Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 318	i can't confirm this, but i've heard that ever since RED started allowing their owners to upgrade firmware(Builds) companies like Canon and Panasonic have been following their lead. I just hope Sony is paying attention. it's extremely impractical, in this technically advanced world for Sony to demand its owners to send in their products for something WE can easily do in the comfort on our own homes/offices.

December 30th, 2009, 04:41 PM	#19
Jason Bodnar Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 376	Fed Ex just delivered My camera back from LA Service Center after repairs... Was loaded with latest firmware V1.14_0543 updated on 12/21/09. Probably another version still coming for Feb/Mar

December 30th, 2009, 05:00 PM	#20
Michael B. McGee Major Player Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 318	i have v.1.11_0531 wonder what the differences are?

December 31st, 2009, 07:30 PM	#28
Jason Bodnar Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 376	When I spoke to the LA service center Manager he told me he was not aware of a new lens but did say any replacement lens ordered could have some changes, but he was not aware of any. Now I am still trying to verify what all was actually repaired on my camera... I was told the prism block was replaced but the paper work just says the camera was fixed under warranty. I will compare footage shot before the repair with new footage in clip browser and see if there is any difference on the lens but I do not think they replaced my Lens as part of the repair. Update- I still have the old lens model... XT14x5.8.. guess there was no need to replace it... Hope that does not mean I may have to replace it at some point in the future...

February 26th, 2010, 07:24 PM	#30
Ed Przyzycki Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: SouthWest Suburbs of Chicago, IL Posts: 55	I attended a Sony "educational" seminar on the EX line last Wednesday. It's definitely coming. They wouldn't commit to an exact date, but we were told "early spring". From their website: Sony Product Detail Page - SBS32G1 The SxS-1 memory card will initially be compatible with only the new XDCAM EX camcorder models PMW-EX1R, PMW-350L and PMW-350K. In the case of PMW-EX1/EX3/10MD, an end user firmware upgrade, scheduled for release in the Spring of 2010, will be required and can be downloaded from the Sony Pro Media website when available. Users that own an PMW-EX30 must send their deck to a Sony Service center to complete the required firmware updates.