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Simon Wyndham · November 14th, 2009, 07:46 AM

Just a bit of something to look out for if you haven't got Tiffens new filter yet. Don't assume that it is just black material that goes brown. I discovered today that dark blue materials can also go brown. Just something to look out for.

Paul Inglis · November 14th, 2009, 08:13 AM

I’ve had that on certain navy shirts! Getting hold of one of those Tiffen T1 1R Filters is much hard than getting a Tax rebate :)

Mark Savage · November 14th, 2009, 12:58 PM

This is a great observation, Simon. I encountered the blue to brown as well as the black to red/brown.

Since fitting the new T1 1R filter, the picture difference is massive. I've recently been shooting a feature in which there are massive negatives spaces and something lighter (lit) in a corner. The blacks are noticeably richer and deeper -- so much so, that's it's given me a greater confidence shooting in very low light situations. If using -3 dB, the result is quite stunning. No murkiness at all. Very solid blacks.

Ian Campbell · November 15th, 2009, 05:37 PM

Hey, Mark . . .

Congratulations on acquiring one of the Tiffen T1's! I have one on back order, and it seems to be the way to go, from what we're hearing.

A couple of questions: Since you've had some experience with using the T1 do you find that the filter robs you of much light in low light situations? Are you off a full stop or more with the filter?

And aside from the advantage of fixing the IR problem, is there any negative effect of using the filter you've noticed in overall color or exposure, etc.?

Thanks!

Ian

Mark Savage · November 15th, 2009, 07:08 PM

Hi Ian,

The filter does reduce incoming light -- definitely no less than a stop, though. At times it feels more like 3/4 stop.

Because there is black in virtually everything, I'm not taking the filter off the camera.

Although there IS an exposure reduction in low light, I'm not having any trouble accommodating that because the filter " repairs" (best word I can find) the murkiness/redness which used to show up at the bottom end of acceptable exposure by delivering very deep black.

I find that the T1 1R used in conjunction with the Tiffen Black Diff FX 1/2 (for exteriors) or Soft FX 1/2 (for interiors) produces dazzling results. Works nicely with Polars, too.

No negatives that I can see.

Hope this is helpful.

Would like to hear your feedback when you start using it.

November 14th, 2009, 07:46 AM	#1
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Blues going brown Just a bit of something to look out for if you haven't got Tiffens new filter yet. Don't assume that it is just black material that goes brown. I discovered today that dark blue materials can also go brown. Just something to look out for.

November 14th, 2009, 08:13 AM	#2
Paul Inglis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: British Isles Posts: 415	I’ve had that on certain navy shirts! Getting hold of one of those Tiffen T1 1R Filters is much hard than getting a Tax rebate :)

November 14th, 2009, 12:58 PM	#3
Mark Savage Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA USA Posts: 49	This is a great observation, Simon. I encountered the blue to brown as well as the black to red/brown. Since fitting the new T1 1R filter, the picture difference is massive. I've recently been shooting a feature in which there are massive negatives spaces and something lighter (lit) in a corner. The blacks are noticeably richer and deeper -- so much so, that's it's given me a greater confidence shooting in very low light situations. If using -3 dB, the result is quite stunning. No murkiness at all. Very solid blacks.

November 15th, 2009, 05:37 PM	#4
Ian Campbell Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 141	Hey, Mark . . . Congratulations on acquiring one of the Tiffen T1's! I have one on back order, and it seems to be the way to go, from what we're hearing. A couple of questions: Since you've had some experience with using the T1 do you find that the filter robs you of much light in low light situations? Are you off a full stop or more with the filter? And aside from the advantage of fixing the IR problem, is there any negative effect of using the filter you've noticed in overall color or exposure, etc.? Thanks! Ian

November 15th, 2009, 07:08 PM	#5
Mark Savage Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA USA Posts: 49	Hi Ian, The filter does reduce incoming light -- definitely no less than a stop, though. At times it feels more like 3/4 stop. Because there is black in virtually everything, I'm not taking the filter off the camera. Although there IS an exposure reduction in low light, I'm not having any trouble accommodating that because the filter " repairs" (best word I can find) the murkiness/redness which used to show up at the bottom end of acceptable exposure by delivering very deep black. I find that the T1 1R used in conjunction with the Tiffen Black Diff FX 1/2 (for exteriors) or Soft FX 1/2 (for interiors) produces dazzling results. Works nicely with Polars, too. No negatives that I can see. Hope this is helpful. Would like to hear your feedback when you start using it.