Does Handy35 work with EX3? at DVinfo.net

Adam Stanislav · October 28th, 2009, 07:00 PM

I just saw the web site of the Handy35 adapter, and am wondering if it can be used with the EX3. I watched

, and it seems to be a well thought out design, I am just not sure if the EX3 may be too big for (my EX3 is arriving in two days, so I actually do not have the exact idea of its size).

Dean Harrington · October 28th, 2009, 08:59 PM

The EX3 has a lens diameter of 77mm ... so at this point the largest diameter this adapter will work with is 72mm.

Adam Stanislav · October 28th, 2009, 09:46 PM

Well, wouldn't a step-down ring, like this one, help with that? Has anyone tried it? Or would that cause optical problems?

I guess I should just email him and ask him if it would work with the EX3, though I was hoping to hear from someone other than him, since other people would probably be more objective about it.

Adam Stanislav · October 29th, 2009, 12:12 AM

OK, I e-mailed him. Then I noticed that while his web site says 72 mm max, his order form also offers an 82 mm adapter. So, with a step-up ring, that should work.

I'll have to see when I get my EX3 if all the other measurements are within his stated parameters.

Adam Stanislav · October 29th, 2009, 01:11 PM

Looks like the stars are smiling at me. :) My EX3 is coming tomorrow, and I have just received a reply to my email:

Quote:

Adam it is possible to use Handy35 with EX3

But we have not announced this on our website yet.

We made our tests and we will start accepting orders from next week.
Prices will be available on the website.

Regards.

Kadir KOYMEN

He even attached a picture.

Jeff Anselmo · October 30th, 2009, 12:26 PM

Hi Adam,

Looks like the Handy35 is a nice, well built 35mm adapter setup. (And if it looks like it'll work with the EX3, then it'll surely work with the EX1R :)

Please keep us posted if and when you do get the Handy35.

Best,

Adam Stanislav · October 30th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Yes, I will keep you posted. By the way, my EX3 arrived today. :)

Jeff Anselmo · October 30th, 2009, 04:04 PM

Hi Adam,

Congratulations on your new EX3!

Best,

Adam Stanislav · October 30th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Thanks, Jeff. It is a really nice piece of equipment. I also got Doug Jensen's DVDs with it, and I am glad I did because it is much more advanced than anything I have used before.

Jeff Hochmuth · November 1st, 2009, 04:43 PM

Will that work with the Canon xl1s?

Adam Stanislav · November 1st, 2009, 04:44 PM

I don't know anything about the Canon XL1s, sorry. I guess it depends on the ring size of its lens.

Leonard Levy · November 1st, 2009, 05:32 PM

I don't know anything about the Handy35, but I have tried many adapters on the Ex-1.

Adapting to the thread size is easy, but the lens on the Ex-1 has been hard for adapter makers to mate their achromats to with decent optical results. As far as I know the only 2 adapters that have done a good job are the SGBlade and the Letus ( not the older ones). Its possible the new version of the Redrock is OK as well.

I've also found that manufacturers ( to be gentle about it) generally exaggerate when describing how well their adapters will work with an EX-1. In other words don't believe everything they say. I expect to see decent corner to corner sharpness with my EX-1 iris wide.

Adam Stanislav · November 1st, 2009, 06:55 PM

Judging by his video on updating the Handy35 v5 to v5+ (see below), he has replaced his achromat with a completely different one. So it is impossible to know how good the achromat is at this time. But, hopefully, the upgrade probably means the new achromat is better than the old one.

And judging by the test video below, the v5 did not seem to have corner to corner sharpness, which is the reason for the upgrade:

Jeff Anselmo · November 1st, 2009, 09:06 PM

Hi Adam,

Yeah, it'd be interesting if the Handy35 mates well with the EX1/3. Been trying to look around for any sample videos with that combo...

Adam Stanislav · November 1st, 2009, 09:25 PM

I have asked the manufacturer to email me when he has the version for the EX3 available. Once I have it, I will play with it and post some samples. By then I should have learned how to use my EX3. :)

And just today I ordered a 50 mm f/1.4 Zeiss ZE lens with the EF mount (since my main photo camera is a Rebel 2000 EOS), which is a very sharp lens, and a Lens Baby, which is a very soft and dreamy lens. So, I will test the adapter with both.

Of course, an EF mount lens has the disadvantage that its iris can only be controlled electronically, so you can adjust it while mounted on the adapter. You have to use a Canon camera to set it and remove it from the camera while the iris is set properly, then mount it on the adapter. I just hope the Zeiss lens holds the iris in that situation the way Canon lenses do...

One thing I like about the Handy35 is that you can change the speed of rotation of the ground glass, which should allow for different effects.

October 28th, 2009, 07:00 PM	#1
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Does Handy35 work with EX3? I just saw the web site of the Handy35 adapter, and am wondering if it can be used with the EX3. I watched one of its videos , and it seems to be a well thought out design, I am just not sure if the EX3 may be too big for (my EX3 is arriving in two days, so I actually do not have the exact idea of its size).

October 28th, 2009, 08:59 PM	#2
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Ex3 ... The EX3 has a lens diameter of 77mm ... so at this point the largest diameter this adapter will work with is 72mm.

October 30th, 2009, 12:26 PM	#6
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Adam, Looks like the Handy35 is a nice, well built 35mm adapter setup. (And if it looks like it'll work with the EX3, then it'll surely work with the EX1R :) Please keep us posted if and when you do get the Handy35. Best, __________________ --JA

October 30th, 2009, 04:04 PM	#8
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Adam, Congratulations on your new EX3! Best, __________________ --JA

November 1st, 2009, 06:55 PM	#13
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Judging by his video on updating the Handy35 v5 to v5+ (see below), he has replaced his achromat with a completely different one. So it is impossible to know how good the achromat is at this time. But, hopefully, the upgrade probably means the new achromat is better than the old one. The V5Plus Upgrade Video And judging by the test video below, the v5 did not seem to have corner to corner sharpness, which is the reason for the upgrade: Trying out the Handy35

October 28th, 2009, 09:46 PM	#3
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Well, wouldn't a step-down ring, like this one, help with that? Has anyone tried it? Or would that cause optical problems? I guess I should just email him and ask him if it would work with the EX3, though I was hoping to hear from someone other than him, since other people would probably be more objective about it.

October 29th, 2009, 12:12 AM	#4
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	OK, I e-mailed him. Then I noticed that while his web site says 72 mm max, his order form also offers an 82 mm adapter. So, with a step-up ring, that should work. I'll have to see when I get my EX3 if all the other measurements are within his stated parameters.

October 30th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#7
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Yes, I will keep you posted. By the way, my EX3 arrived today. :)

October 30th, 2009, 04:26 PM	#9
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Thanks, Jeff. It is a really nice piece of equipment. I also got Doug Jensen's DVDs with it, and I am glad I did because it is much more advanced than anything I have used before.

November 1st, 2009, 04:43 PM	#10
Jeff Hochmuth New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 11	Will that work with the Canon xl1s?

November 1st, 2009, 04:44 PM	#11
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	I don't know anything about the Canon XL1s, sorry. I guess it depends on the ring size of its lens.

November 1st, 2009, 05:32 PM	#12
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	I don't know anything about the Handy35, but I have tried many adapters on the Ex-1. Adapting to the thread size is easy, but the lens on the Ex-1 has been hard for adapter makers to mate their achromats to with decent optical results. As far as I know the only 2 adapters that have done a good job are the SGBlade and the Letus ( not the older ones). Its possible the new version of the Redrock is OK as well. I've also found that manufacturers ( to be gentle about it) generally exaggerate when describing how well their adapters will work with an EX-1. In other words don't believe everything they say. I expect to see decent corner to corner sharpness with my EX-1 iris wide.

November 1st, 2009, 09:06 PM	#14
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Adam, Yeah, it'd be interesting if the Handy35 mates well with the EX1/3. Been trying to look around for any sample videos with that combo... __________________ --JA

November 1st, 2009, 09:25 PM	#15
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	I have asked the manufacturer to email me when he has the version for the EX3 available. Once I have it, I will play with it and post some samples. By then I should have learned how to use my EX3. :) And just today I ordered a 50 mm f/1.4 Zeiss ZE lens with the EF mount (since my main photo camera is a Rebel 2000 EOS), which is a very sharp lens, and a Lens Baby, which is a very soft and dreamy lens. So, I will test the adapter with both. Of course, an EF mount lens has the disadvantage that its iris can only be controlled electronically, so you can adjust it while mounted on the adapter. You have to use a Canon camera to set it and remove it from the camera while the iris is set properly, then mount it on the adapter. I just hope the Zeiss lens holds the iris in that situation the way Canon lenses do... One thing I like about the Handy35 is that you can change the speed of rotation of the ground glass, which should allow for different effects.