Something BIG on OCT 20, 2009 from SONY at DVinfo.net

Marc Myers · October 16th, 2009, 01:48 PM

I know nothing but there have been reports on other threads and I thought this would be place to discuss it until there's something official.

Paul Chiu · October 16th, 2009, 02:55 PM

Just what is BIG TBA on Oct 20, 2009 regarding XDCAM from Sony?
(just got the email....)
The EX1 replacement?
Another model with interchangeable lenses?
Anyone?

John Dewey · October 16th, 2009, 02:59 PM

I just received an email from Sony stating that "Something BIG is Coming from Sony 10.20.09".

This will be announced on the Sony XDCAM EX website, so I assume it will be a new XDCAM EX product. You can register to be emailed the BIG announcement here: Sony | Micro Site - XDCAM EX

Who knows what it will be?

Scott Howard · October 16th, 2009, 03:04 PM

I just got the email too. I'm guessing a big camera with 2/3 chips that records EX cam style to cards. And maybe an EX-1 version 2 as a side note - not big enough to be big on it's own.

Second guess is an EX-1 style camera that seamlessly takes Sony SLR lenses and maybe has a sensor out of it's topline DSLR. That's more wishful thinking than expecting. And wondering if they would beat Canon to the punch. Canon has a rumored announcement that day as well - it's the 50th anniversary of the Canon SLR. But it's expected to be a new topline DSLR.

Alister Chapman · October 16th, 2009, 03:12 PM

You'll have to wait until the 20th.

Brent Ethington · October 16th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Maybe they'll announce full compatibility with Snow Leopard? he he he :-)

Mitchell Skurnik · October 16th, 2009, 03:14 PM

My guess is a shoulder mounted EX

Chris Hurd · October 16th, 2009, 03:22 PM

Since they're teasing with "something big," my guess is a full-size shoulder mount EX camera as well.

Mitchell Skurnik · October 16th, 2009, 03:23 PM

Or it is the opposite and something like a dockable or portable xdcam disc drive

Leonard Levy · October 16th, 2009, 03:31 PM

If Sony was able to combine their video camera technology with their DSLR technology it would indeed be earth shattering in our business. A 2/3" EX would not.
Everyone has been waiting for Canon to do this but why not Sony.

Where are the leaks?

Steve Kalle · October 16th, 2009, 03:49 PM

Unfortunately, all of the good Sony Alpha lenses do not have an aperture ring so they are rather useless for most types of video. I am a former Alpha shooter and would have loved to use my lenses for video. Their Carl Zeiss 24-70 is just sickening beautiful. And their CZ 135/1.8 and 135 STF(best bokeh lens ever) are the best of any manufacturer. However, the one major problem with them is longitudinal CA at larger apertures. The other problem with Sony DSLRs and lenses is the IS/VR is built into the camera/sensor so their lenses don't provide any stability.

What would be awesome is if they made an A900s and built IS into the video sensor OR made a smaller EX1 style cam with a single large sensor. I think this would blow away the Canon models.

Craig Seeman · October 16th, 2009, 04:05 PM

Why wouldn't they have done this at IBC?
Apple doesn't make their big announcements at trade shows anymore either.
Apple always makes their big announcements on Tuesdays.
Oct. 20th is a Tuesday.
I've heard Apple might be updating their Mac Mini's and iMacs.

Hey, I've got it. It's going to be an iMac with a big EX iSight camera built in!
. . . but it still won't be Snow Leopard compatible!

David Heath · October 16th, 2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Since they're teasing with "something big," my guess is a full-size shoulder mount EX camera as well.

I think that makes sense. I certainly hope so - it's an obvious thing for them to make, and something a lot of people are asking for. Now that there is a definate announcement on the official Sony website, should this be lifted fom Area 51?

I guess it's possible that it may not turn out to be so big after all. But I can't really see that happening. If it did turn out to be for a fairly minor product, it's likely to go down like the boy who called wolf. It would give Sony a brief marketing kick in the short term, but be bad in the long term.

There's a big gap in their range between the EX cameras and the PDW800, which the 3xx series barely fill and are getting a bit long in the tooth. My money is on an SxS replacement for those, but the big question may be 1/2" or dare we hope for a 2/3" SxS camera?

Jonathan Morrow · October 16th, 2009, 05:14 PM

I tried the link but it looks like it is for USA customers only, so obviously the supply voltage and frequency is critical. However, I am sure there will be plenty of gossip on these pages....

Paul Chiu · October 16th, 2009, 06:21 PM

something to compete with the canon eos 5d mark 2 would be special.
frankly, our ex1 is hard to knock already.
maybe a greater zoom with a f 1.6 to a true f2.0 at the long end.
add 1080/60p

not too much to ask.

October 16th, 2009, 01:48 PM	#1
Marc Myers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island, NY and Northeast PA Posts: 132	Something BIG on OCT 20, 2009 from SONY I know nothing but there have been reports on other threads and I thought this would be place to discuss it until there's something official.

October 16th, 2009, 02:55 PM	#2
Paul Chiu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: new york Posts: 231	Something BIG on OCT 20, 2009 from SONY Just what is BIG TBA on Oct 20, 2009 regarding XDCAM from Sony? (just got the email....) The EX1 replacement? Another model with interchangeable lenses? Anyone?

October 16th, 2009, 02:59 PM	#3
John Dewey Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tinley Park, Illinois Posts: 288	Sony to make big announcement on the Sony XDCAM EX website on 10/20/2009 I just received an email from Sony stating that "Something BIG is Coming from Sony 10.20.09". This will be announced on the Sony XDCAM EX website, so I assume it will be a new XDCAM EX product. You can register to be emailed the BIG announcement here: Sony \| Micro Site - XDCAM EX Who knows what it will be?

October 16th, 2009, 03:04 PM	#4
Scott Howard New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pierre, South Dakota Posts: 12	Something big.. I just got the email too. I'm guessing a big camera with 2/3 chips that records EX cam style to cards. And maybe an EX-1 version 2 as a side note - not big enough to be big on it's own. Second guess is an EX-1 style camera that seamlessly takes Sony SLR lenses and maybe has a sensor out of it's topline DSLR. That's more wishful thinking than expecting. And wondering if they would beat Canon to the punch. Canon has a rumored announcement that day as well - it's the 50th anniversary of the Canon SLR. But it's expected to be a new topline DSLR.

October 16th, 2009, 03:12 PM	#5
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	You'll have to wait until the 20th. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

October 16th, 2009, 03:12 PM	#6
Brent Ethington Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: WA Posts: 180	Maybe they'll announce full compatibility with Snow Leopard? he he he :-)

October 16th, 2009, 03:14 PM	#7
Mitchell Skurnik Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, California Posts: 201	My guess is a shoulder mounted EX __________________ Mitchell J. Skurnik http://www.mjcsstudios.com/ - EX1, 4x hoodman 16GB, Libec Tripod, Sony LAV

October 16th, 2009, 03:22 PM	#8
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October 16th, 2009, 03:23 PM	#9
Mitchell Skurnik Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, California Posts: 201	Or it is the opposite and something like a dockable or portable xdcam disc drive __________________ Mitchell J. Skurnik http://www.mjcsstudios.com/ - EX1, 4x hoodman 16GB, Libec Tripod, Sony LAV

October 16th, 2009, 03:31 PM	#10
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	If Sony was able to combine their video camera technology with their DSLR technology it would indeed be earth shattering in our business. A 2/3" EX would not. Everyone has been waiting for Canon to do this but why not Sony. Where are the leaks?

October 16th, 2009, 03:49 PM	#11
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Unfortunately, all of the good Sony Alpha lenses do not have an aperture ring so they are rather useless for most types of video. I am a former Alpha shooter and would have loved to use my lenses for video. Their Carl Zeiss 24-70 is just sickening beautiful. And their CZ 135/1.8 and 135 STF(best bokeh lens ever) are the best of any manufacturer. However, the one major problem with them is longitudinal CA at larger apertures. The other problem with Sony DSLRs and lenses is the IS/VR is built into the camera/sensor so their lenses don't provide any stability. What would be awesome is if they made an A900s and built IS into the video sensor OR made a smaller EX1 style cam with a single large sensor. I think this would blow away the Canon models.

October 16th, 2009, 04:05 PM	#12
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Why wouldn't they have done this at IBC? Apple doesn't make their big announcements at trade shows anymore either. Apple always makes their big announcements on Tuesdays. Oct. 20th is a Tuesday. I've heard Apple might be updating their Mac Mini's and iMacs. Hey, I've got it. It's going to be an iMac with a big EX iSight camera built in! . . . but it still won't be Snow Leopard compatible!

October 16th, 2009, 05:14 PM	#14
Jonathan Morrow Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 46	I tried the link but it looks like it is for USA customers only, so obviously the supply voltage and frequency is critical. However, I am sure there will be plenty of gossip on these pages....

October 16th, 2009, 06:21 PM	#15
Paul Chiu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: new york Posts: 231	something to compete with the canon eos 5d mark 2 would be special. frankly, our ex1 is hard to knock already. maybe a greater zoom with a f 1.6 to a true f2.0 at the long end. add 1080/60p not too much to ask.