Something BIG on OCT 20, 2009 from SONY

Floris van Eck · October 18th, 2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Skurnik

My guess is a shoulder mounted EX

This is what I heard. Panasonic HPX-300 form factor true shoulder camera.

Basically a better EX-3.

Steve Connor · October 18th, 2009, 03:40 AM

Perhaps Chris had better buy in some more bandwidth for Tuesday

Paul Kousoulides · October 18th, 2009, 04:11 AM

This morning's teaser from Sony describes the announcement as "Big, industry-shaking, ground-breaking". A shoulder-mounted EX3 doesn't fit that description.

An affordable, compact, shoulder-mounted 3D camcorder does. Sony believe that they can drive demand for their 3D consumer TV's (arriving 2010) by launching this product now.

They want to dominate the nascent consumer 3D TV market. After seven consecutive loss-making years they desperately need a hit. They've cut OLED R&D (Samsung & LG now blaze that trail), that leaves Sony with all their eggs in the 3D basket.

With their lead in broadcast camera technology, Sony are uniquely placed to pull this off.

Jordan Nash · October 18th, 2009, 04:39 AM

It's a copier (they had to compete with Canon).

Kidding... ;-)

Damian Heffernan · October 18th, 2009, 04:51 AM

not very amusing that guys "in the know" come on here and say "you'll get a surprise but I can't say more". No offence but I could say something like that to big note and never be proved wrong (I don't have any inside info BTW). No value added here.

Thank goodness I don't fly to Japan until next week as I've got lots of yen in travellers cheques with an EX1's name on them, but if this thing on the 20th surprises it might mean I buy that instead. If it's out soonish.

My speculation:
Maybe Sony is going to release a Red scarlet non-vapor competitor, 4:2:2 and 50+ mbps.

Mike Marriage · October 18th, 2009, 05:08 AM

2/3" with removable lens (native or adaptable to B4), decent form factor, ie HPX300, radio mic slot, VF as good or better than EX3, solid(!!), 50Mbps MPEG2 (although 10bit would be better), affordable single use media with 150min plus record time, no IR contamination issues and PQ & low light to match (hopefully better) the EX3 would have me waiting in line.

Emmanuel Plakiotis · October 18th, 2009, 06:15 AM

Conventional wisdom:A 1/2inc shoulder mount EX variant, maybe with. A 2/3inch would cannibalize the 700-800 cameras especially if it is priced below 20K.

Unconventional thinking: A S35 sensor and SLR lens compatibility.

Both in the 35Mbits realm, unless Sony has managed something extraordinary.

Chris Hurd · October 18th, 2009, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Connor

Perhaps Chris had better buy in some more bandwidth for Tuesday

No worries. DV Info Net is well prepared, as always.

Wolfgang Winne · October 18th, 2009, 11:27 AM

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...-new-ex1r.html

New EX1R is out....

Craig Seeman · October 18th, 2009, 12:02 PM

a site link also

Sony PMW-EX1R

Some of the "big" things are
Cache Record up to 15 seconds
HDMI out
Standard Def recording
One push Auto Iris
One push for S&Q change
New View Finder
Camera holding
Switch improvements
Firmware upgrade by users.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang Winne

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...-new-ex1r.html

New EX1R is out....

Mike Marriage · October 18th, 2009, 12:30 PM

I presume this isn't Tuesday's BIG announcement?

Andy Wilkinson · October 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM

Well if THAT'S ALL the big new release that "those in the know" said we would get then that's a very big let down IMHO. This is a very good, welcome but modest upgrade to a stunning cam.

Let's hope there is more good (read better) news to come on 20th.

EDIT: I see Mike and I think in the same way on this one!

Monday Isa · October 18th, 2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marriage

I presume this isn't Tuesday's BIG announcement?

I believe it's not. I read on another forum that there are two models for release. They're announcing this one and another one. The EX1R info from the web page that is posted here probably got leaked as there isn't a Sony press release for it yet.

Paul Shapiro · October 18th, 2009, 12:50 PM

This isn't a big announcement. BIG = big new sensor. So it's an upgraded EX1 PLUS a big-sensor Scarlet/upcoming-Canon killer.

Greg Boston · October 18th, 2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Heffernan

No offence but I could say something like that to big note and never be proved wrong (I don't have any inside info BTW).

Yeah Damian, you could. But since anyone who knows me, knows that I'm not in the habit of spreading fertilizer on message boards. Especially one where I've moderated for a few years. You can believe me or not, your choice. The same can be said for Alister and a few others around here who have a close working relationship with Sony as early adopters of the XDCAM family.

Regards,

-gb-

October 18th, 2009, 05:08 AM	#66
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	2/3" with removable lens (native or adaptable to B4), decent form factor, ie HPX300, radio mic slot, VF as good or better than EX3, solid(!!), 50Mbps MPEG2 (although 10bit would be better), affordable single use media with 150min plus record time, no IR contamination issues and PQ & low light to match (hopefully better) the EX3 would have me waiting in line. __________________ www.mikemarriage.com

October 18th, 2009, 11:27 AM	#69
Wolfgang Winne Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany Posts: 176	http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...-new-ex1r.html New EX1R is out.... __________________ Wolfgang Winne www.ohrwurmaudio.de www.fxsupport.de

October 18th, 2009, 12:30 PM	#71
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	I presume this isn't Tuesday's BIG announcement? __________________ www.mikemarriage.com

October 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM	#72
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Well if THAT'S ALL the big new release that "those in the know" said we would get then that's a very big let down IMHO. This is a very good, welcome but modest upgrade to a stunning cam. Let's hope there is more good (read better) news to come on 20th. EDIT: I see Mike and I think in the same way on this one! __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production Last edited by Andy Wilkinson; October 18th, 2009 at 01:10 PM.

October 18th, 2009, 03:40 AM	#62
Steve Connor Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 383	Perhaps Chris had better buy in some more bandwidth for Tuesday

October 18th, 2009, 04:11 AM	#63
Paul Kousoulides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 35	This morning's teaser from Sony describes the announcement as "Big, industry-shaking, ground-breaking". A shoulder-mounted EX3 doesn't fit that description. An affordable, compact, shoulder-mounted 3D camcorder does. Sony believe that they can drive demand for their 3D consumer TV's (arriving 2010) by launching this product now. They want to dominate the nascent consumer 3D TV market. After seven consecutive loss-making years they desperately need a hit. They've cut OLED R&D (Samsung & LG now blaze that trail), that leaves Sony with all their eggs in the 3D basket. With their lead in broadcast camera technology, Sony are uniquely placed to pull this off.

October 18th, 2009, 04:39 AM	#64
Jordan Nash Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Wayne, IN (USA) Posts: 85	It's a copier (they had to compete with Canon). Kidding... ;-)

October 18th, 2009, 04:51 AM	#65
Damian Heffernan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: c Australia Posts: 234	not very amusing that guys "in the know" come on here and say "you'll get a surprise but I can't say more". No offence but I could say something like that to big note and never be proved wrong (I don't have any inside info BTW). No value added here. Thank goodness I don't fly to Japan until next week as I've got lots of yen in travellers cheques with an EX1's name on them, but if this thing on the 20th surprises it might mean I buy that instead. If it's out soonish. My speculation: Maybe Sony is going to release a Red scarlet non-vapor competitor, 4:2:2 and 50+ mbps.

October 18th, 2009, 06:15 AM	#67
Emmanuel Plakiotis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 344	Conventional wisdom:A 1/2inc shoulder mount EX variant, maybe with. A 2/3inch would cannibalize the 700-800 cameras especially if it is priced below 20K. Unconventional thinking: A S35 sensor and SLR lens compatibility. Both in the 35Mbits realm, unless Sony has managed something extraordinary.

October 18th, 2009, 12:50 PM	#74
Paul Shapiro Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Paget, Bermuda Posts: 52	This isn't a big announcement. BIG = big new sensor. So it's an upgraded EX1 PLUS a big-sensor Scarlet/upcoming-Canon killer.