Something BIG on OCT 20, 2009 from SONY

Stu Holmes · October 17th, 2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Seah

Very likely to be the EX1R, EX1 replacement. Just wondering how can they make it better if not for a larger sensor like 2/3"?

Use the Exmor R 'backlit' sensor. That, for one thing, would make it amazingly good in low light, even compared to how it is now.

Paul Kousoulides · October 17th, 2009, 01:15 PM

Hi Craig,

Interesting theory. Perhaps, as you suggest, Sony will surprise us by abandoning SxS cards. High Capacity SSDs might be a viable alternative.

Is there a prize for guessing correctly?

Mike Marriage · October 17th, 2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Boston

... but it will surprise a lot of people.

In a good way?

Greg Boston · October 17th, 2009, 02:31 PM

Yes, I think it will be a nice surprise. But that's just me. YMMV of course.

-gb-

Alister Chapman · October 17th, 2009, 02:49 PM

I'm sure what's coming will surprise almost everyone ;0) but I'll be in a lot of trouble I say anything more, probably said too much already.

Mark OConnell · October 17th, 2009, 03:03 PM

I'll put my bet on an EX5. It's due.

Tom Daigon · October 17th, 2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

I'm sure what's coming will surprise almost everyone ;0) but I'll be in a lot of trouble I say anything more, probably said too much already.

Alright, with a comment like THAT Im guessing a full sensor to give the Canon 5DM2 some competition.

Bo Skelmose · October 17th, 2009, 03:26 PM

Sony and Panasonic have joined forces in the P2 project ---- no - no anything like that never happend before and probably never will. New full size 2/3 EX camera to compete with Panasonic P2. - I guess.

Steve Connor · October 17th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Daigon

Alright, with a comment like THAT Im guessing a full sensor to give the Canon 5DM2 some competition.

Why do people rate the 5D so much? Sure it's a full frame sensor but that doesn't matter as the codec doesn't bear close examination, the skew is terrible and the ergonomics of working with a DSLR is appalling. OK it's easier to get a "film look" but any professional can get the same out of an EX3

Tom Daigon · October 17th, 2009, 03:50 PM

When I want a short DOF or when shooting golden hour, the differences to me are dramatic.
But I agree its has its limitations and uses. Which is exactly why I bought an EX-3 several weeks ago. For professional uses with clients the EX-3 offers a lot of what the 5D does not.
I like using them together and use them for their strengths. The facility I work at did a night shoot of an Allman Brothers concert recently and in post the footage was displayed by a HD projector on a large screen. The images were breathtaking.

Jose Martins · October 17th, 2009, 03:52 PM

It also says:

"You spoke, we listen" on the home page.

So could it could be something very requested...

Adam Stanislav · October 17th, 2009, 04:12 PM

I hope it is not going to make me regret that I have just ordered an EX3 this week...

Mark OConnell · October 17th, 2009, 05:33 PM

I would hold off on buying anything for a few days.

Adam Stanislav · October 17th, 2009, 09:02 PM

Too late for me, I already ordered it on Monday.

Paul Kousoulides · October 17th, 2009, 09:22 PM

I now believe Sony's big announcement will be a 3D XDCAM EX (perhaps called EX3D?).

It will use the EX3's single 1/2" interchangeable lens mount, Sony's recently prototyped beam-splitting 3D system feeding two illuminated "Xmor R" sensors to facilitate very high frame-rates.

It will need a bigger battery to handle the extra overhead and faster recording (on raided SSDs) to handle the extra bandwidth and, of course, a 3D viewfinder. The extra body length and weight makes shoulder mounting a no-brainer.

The camera will be supported by a suite of new applications designed to handle a new 3D file-type and to appeal to the broadest-possible market.

I believe this because Sony are investing heavily in 3D TV's. Their consumer TV division has taken a battering from the competition and they need to make a come-back. 3D is a unique opportunity to do so.

If 3D TV is going to take off there needs to be more 3D content and that will only happen (in todays economic climate) when costs come down. The enormous success of the EX series enables Sony to produce an affordable 3D solution through economies-of-scale. It may even come-in under £10K.

The compact 1/2" blocks and efficient sensors make it perfect for sports coverage especially. They'll need to fix that rolling shutter though. If any of this does materialize then Sony are bound to revise the EX1 & 3 to boot.

- now, hopefully, I can get some sleep.

October 17th, 2009, 02:49 PM	#50
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October 17th, 2009, 03:03 PM	#51
Mark OConnell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 420	I'll put my bet on an EX5. It's due. __________________ http://www.markoconnell.org

October 17th, 2009, 05:33 PM	#58
Mark OConnell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 420	I would hold off on buying anything for a few days. __________________ http://www.markoconnell.org

October 17th, 2009, 01:15 PM	#47
Paul Kousoulides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 35	Hi Craig, Interesting theory. Perhaps, as you suggest, Sony will surprise us by abandoning SxS cards. High Capacity SSDs might be a viable alternative. Is there a prize for guessing correctly?

October 17th, 2009, 02:31 PM	#49
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Yes, I think it will be a nice surprise. But that's just me. YMMV of course. -gb-

October 17th, 2009, 03:26 PM	#53
Bo Skelmose Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 495	Sony and Panasonic have joined forces in the P2 project ---- no - no anything like that never happend before and probably never will. New full size 2/3 EX camera to compete with Panasonic P2. - I guess.

October 17th, 2009, 03:50 PM	#55
Tom Daigon Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 170	When I want a short DOF or when shooting golden hour, the differences to me are dramatic. But I agree its has its limitations and uses. Which is exactly why I bought an EX-3 several weeks ago. For professional uses with clients the EX-3 offers a lot of what the 5D does not. I like using them together and use them for their strengths. The facility I work at did a night shoot of an Allman Brothers concert recently and in post the footage was displayed by a HD projector on a large screen. The images were breathtaking.

October 17th, 2009, 03:52 PM	#56
Jose Martins New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 14	It also says: "You spoke, we listen" on the home page. So could it could be something very requested...

October 17th, 2009, 04:12 PM	#57
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	I hope it is not going to make me regret that I have just ordered an EX3 this week...

October 17th, 2009, 09:02 PM	#59
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Too late for me, I already ordered it on Monday.

October 17th, 2009, 09:22 PM	#60
Paul Kousoulides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 35	I now believe Sony's big announcement will be a 3D XDCAM EX (perhaps called EX3D?). It will use the EX3's single 1/2" interchangeable lens mount, Sony's recently prototyped beam-splitting 3D system feeding two illuminated "Xmor R" sensors to facilitate very high frame-rates. It will need a bigger battery to handle the extra overhead and faster recording (on raided SSDs) to handle the extra bandwidth and, of course, a 3D viewfinder. The extra body length and weight makes shoulder mounting a no-brainer. The camera will be supported by a suite of new applications designed to handle a new 3D file-type and to appeal to the broadest-possible market. I believe this because Sony are investing heavily in 3D TV's. Their consumer TV division has taken a battering from the competition and they need to make a come-back. 3D is a unique opportunity to do so. If 3D TV is going to take off there needs to be more 3D content and that will only happen (in todays economic climate) when costs come down. The enormous success of the EX series enables Sony to produce an affordable 3D solution through economies-of-scale. It may even come-in under £10K. The compact 1/2" blocks and efficient sensors make it perfect for sports coverage especially. They'll need to fix that rolling shutter though. If any of this does materialize then Sony are bound to revise the EX1 & 3 to boot. - now, hopefully, I can get some sleep.