Something BIG on OCT 20, 2009 from SONY

Shaun Roemich · October 17th, 2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Perrone Ford

5. Give us 1080/60p

There is now a pool of drool all over my desk...

David Issko · October 17th, 2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Kousoulides

Hi Jim,

I'll be very surprised if any new model or EX1/3 revision doesn't include a BBC HD-compliant 50Mb/s+ recording option. Hopefully, this could also be enabled through firmware update for existing users.

Paul,

Aren't they after 4.2.2 recording as well?
Solved a while ago with the nanoFlash recorder.

Good luck with all of your wish list items.

Cheers

Paul Kousoulides · October 17th, 2009, 05:26 AM

Hi David,

You're absolutely right. I'll whack-it on the list.

4.2.2 please.

... and USB 3 (with "Light Peak")

Thanks

Krzysztof Godziejewski · October 17th, 2009, 06:36 AM

A Polish Sony reseller told me a few days ago about the changes. It will be almost the same EX1, with a smaller LCD (2,5"), and there will be an HDMI output in place of the Sony's A/V output. He told me that the new EX1 is going to replace the old one (just like it was with the pd170 and pd150), and that the price is going to be the same.

I don't know if any of this is truth, i just repeat what iv'e been told.

Steve Shovlar · October 17th, 2009, 07:32 AM

That doesn't sound BIG. It sounds like a little tinkering.

Could well be the EX5 shoulder mount version replacing the PDW-700?

Greg Boston · October 17th, 2009, 08:10 AM

I have the privilege of advanced knowledge of what's coming. I can't say anything of course due to NDA, but it will surprise a lot of people.

Just keep an ear to the ground on the 20th.

regards,

-gb-

Daniel Goyette · October 17th, 2009, 08:18 AM

The Softwares Download link of Sony XDCAM EX in Canada list all Softwares as 0 or No Softwares Available for Download.

SONY XDCAM EX

Maybe we will get Updated XDCAM EX Line-Up with Softwares Updated for Snow Leopard.

You just have to click on any option to download a specific software and you reach a page with the number 0.

Let hope Sony surprize us with both products updates and softwares updated too for Snow Leopard.

Vincent Oliver · October 17th, 2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Boston

I have the privilege of advanced knowledge of what's coming. I can't say anything of course due to NDA, but it will surprise a lot of people.

Just keep an ear to the ground on the 20th.

You just gave the game away, now we know it is a set of stereo speakers hidden in the users shoes. Very clever :-)

Greg Boston · October 17th, 2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Oliver

You just gave the game away, now we know it is a set of stereo speakers hidden in the users shoes. Very clever :-)

Well hold on now, Vince. I could have just as easily been referring to a micro-miniature type of EX that sits on the ground and gives a "worm's eye view" shot. Keeping your ear to the ground would be the only way to look in the viewfinder. (hehe)

But you'll just have to wait and see on the 20th!

-gb-

Tim Polster · October 17th, 2009, 08:37 AM

2/3" chips
1080p60
Not $30,000, more like $10-$12,000 body only

Would be "big"

Craig Seeman · October 17th, 2009, 10:41 AM

Does Sony give us a discount if we get close?

Other things not mentioned:
3 seconds or more record cache
90 or 120FPS overcrank (so SDHC would go to 60fps and SxS would be up to 120fps).
Record to either or both SxS/SDHC and XDCAM disc.

I think whatever it is it'll be shoulder mount and somewhere in the price range of the F335 and F355 because these is where the EX is eating their own market internally. Sony needs a compelling reason for people to spend more. Keep in mind they may be announcing more than one camera.

It could be EX5 and EX7 to "replace" F335 and F355.

Theodore McNeil · October 17th, 2009, 11:02 AM

I would be happy with a BIG price reduction in cost of SxS cards.

Paul Chiu · October 17th, 2009, 11:07 AM

no need for big or shoulder mount, no sports shooter here.
the form factor and ergo of the EX1 is already ideal for us.
for nearly 2 years...

1080/60p and maybe a greater and faster zoom would be fabulous.
f1.4 or f1.6 down to f2.0 on the long end.....
interchangeable lens just gets us cleaning the sensor more than we like.
still, love to mount a nikkor 85 1.4 or zeiss manual 1.4 of the same on the EX2 or EX4

hopeful from queens.....
paul

Brian Henderson · October 17th, 2009, 12:22 PM

I think a more realistic guess would be an EX5. A shoulder mounted EX with 1/2" chips and interchangeable lenses, and otherwise not much different from the 1 or 3. I'm guessing it will cost at least $10,000, but probably more. Unlike the 3XXs, it won't do DV-CAM which will be annoying for those of us who still have SD customers. It won't do XD disks either.

Read CCDs would be nice though.

Craig Seeman · October 17th, 2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Boston

it will surprise a lot of people.
-gb-

Well that eliminates EVERYTHING we've been speculating because none of it would surprise me (or us) since this is what we expect might happen.

Now I have to take a different tact. What would surprise us?

Sony buying JVC

Discontinuing the entire EX line and instead making the equivalent to EX1 and EX3 with XDCAM disc which would end this whole SxS/SDHC stuff and put Sony in control of the media.

Discontinuing the aforementioned and replacing it with a DSLR still camera with video recording that's better than the 5D.

Making all the above tape based cameras by introducing the XDCAM equivalent of BetaSX tape.

A shoulder mount EX camera with some of the previously mentioned features does not surprise me (us?) at all so it has to be "something completely different."

October 17th, 2009, 06:36 AM	#34
Krzysztof Godziejewski New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Polska, Warszawa Posts: 9	A Polish Sony reseller told me a few days ago about the changes. It will be almost the same EX1, with a smaller LCD (2,5"), and there will be an HDMI output in place of the Sony's A/V output. He told me that the new EX1 is going to replace the old one (just like it was with the pd170 and pd150), and that the price is going to be the same. I don't know if any of this is truth, i just repeat what iv'e been told. __________________ Krzysztof Godziejewski www.fastmedia.com.pl

October 17th, 2009, 08:18 AM	#37
Daniel Goyette Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montreal,Canada Posts: 64	The Softwares Download link of Sony XDCAM EX in Canada list all Softwares as 0 or No Softwares Available for Download. SONY XDCAM EX Maybe we will get Updated XDCAM EX Line-Up with Softwares Updated for Snow Leopard. You just have to click on any option to download a specific software and you reach a page with the number 0. Let hope Sony surprize us with both products updates and softwares updated too for Snow Leopard. __________________ Production D. Goyette - Production Video Corporatif - Montreal Quebec Canada. https://www.facebook.com/ProductionDanielGoyette/ , Vimeo , Youtube, Facebook.

October 17th, 2009, 11:02 AM	#42
Theodore McNeil Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Centreville, Maryland Posts: 258	I would be happy with a BIG price reduction in cost of SxS cards. __________________ http://twitter.com/tedmcneil

October 17th, 2009, 12:22 PM	#44
Brian Henderson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Boston Massachusetts, USA Posts: 21	My guess I think a more realistic guess would be an EX5. A shoulder mounted EX with 1/2" chips and interchangeable lenses, and otherwise not much different from the 1 or 3. I'm guessing it will cost at least $10,000, but probably more. Unlike the 3XXs, it won't do DV-CAM which will be annoying for those of us who still have SD customers. It won't do XD disks either. Read CCDs would be nice though. __________________ A bad day in television is still better than a good day in a cubucle.

October 17th, 2009, 05:26 AM	#33
Paul Kousoulides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 35	Hi David, You're absolutely right. I'll whack-it on the list. 4.2.2 please. ... and USB 3 (with "Light Peak") Thanks

October 17th, 2009, 07:32 AM	#35
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	That doesn't sound BIG. It sounds like a little tinkering. Could well be the EX5 shoulder mount version replacing the PDW-700?

October 17th, 2009, 08:10 AM	#36
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	I have the privilege of advanced knowledge of what's coming. I can't say anything of course due to NDA, but it will surprise a lot of people. Just keep an ear to the ground on the 20th. regards, -gb-

October 17th, 2009, 08:37 AM	#40
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	2/3" chips 1080p60 Not $30,000, more like $10-$12,000 body only Would be "big"

October 17th, 2009, 10:41 AM	#41
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Does Sony give us a discount if we get close? Other things not mentioned: 3 seconds or more record cache 90 or 120FPS overcrank (so SDHC would go to 60fps and SxS would be up to 120fps). Record to either or both SxS/SDHC and XDCAM disc. I think whatever it is it'll be shoulder mount and somewhere in the price range of the F335 and F355 because these is where the EX is eating their own market internally. Sony needs a compelling reason for people to spend more. Keep in mind they may be announcing more than one camera. It could be EX5 and EX7 to "replace" F335 and F355.

October 17th, 2009, 11:07 AM	#43
Paul Chiu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: new york Posts: 231	no need for big or shoulder mount, no sports shooter here. the form factor and ergo of the EX1 is already ideal for us. for nearly 2 years... 1080/60p and maybe a greater and faster zoom would be fabulous. f1.4 or f1.6 down to f2.0 on the long end..... interchangeable lens just gets us cleaning the sensor more than we like. still, love to mount a nikkor 85 1.4 or zeiss manual 1.4 of the same on the EX2 or EX4 hopeful from queens..... paul